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Texas Land Commissioner Dawn Buckingham offered President-elect Donald Trump a 1,402-acre ranch for deportation facilities.

The ranch, near the Rio Grande, is strategically located and has been previously used for agricultural purposes.

Despite claims of immigrants committing crimes at higher rates, data shows they commit crimes at lower rates than the U.S.-born population.

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[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 85 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Get your first look at the future site of our next holocaust museum!

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Good guys have to win at some point to actually get to that step.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fascism never wins in the long run. It has to keep inventing a new enemy to keep people from noticing the fact that their policies aren't making anybody's lives better. This means it has to cut some people out of the in-group, and thus their base of support shrinks further and further.

Also, Trump is 78 years old, in poor health, and eats a lot of McDonalds. Going by the social security administration actuarial table, a 78 year old man has a 5.3% chance of keeling over in the next year. For him, it's probably a lot higher than that. Projecting out his next term to when he's 82, he has about a 30% chance of dying by then going by SSA numbers.

The only question is how much they fuck up before it gets to that point. They can fuck up quite a lot. The OG Nazis burned their whole country to the ground and took most of Europe with them. But they lose in the end in some way or another.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You think Vance and company won't be right in there behind him to continue things? Trump laid out the populist approach, the only reason others have failed is because MAGA is personally loyal to Trump. Of course there would be a PR struggle to win that loyalty but someone like Vance or DeSantis is going to win it and then we're still in the same boat. Trump's popularity isn't an inherent trait, in person he's widely reported to be a narcissistic idiot. He's a built personality, after him they'll just build the next one.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump’s popularity isn’t an inherent trait,

It is, actually. Fascisim is about The Guy. It is only about The Guy. Everyone else is expendable. Vance will not pull the kind of support that Trump can, and neither will DeSantis.

You can see this in how people voted. There are a bunch of states this cycle where Trump won their EC votes, but a Democrat won a statewide election. What appears to have happened is that a whole lot of people marked Trump on their ballot and walked away. There's no push to support anyone other than Trump.

The Germans kept fighting until Hitler offed himself. Then they capitulated almost immediately. Italy was done as soon as Mussolini ran away; almost all fighting that continued to happen inside Italian territory was with German units, not Italian.

Vance would try to take over, but he can't conjure up the kind of loyalty Trump has. The MAGA brownshirts are behind Trump enough that news media figures and politicians are fearing for their own safety. That dissolves the moment Trump is gone.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The Germans absolutely did not. They were surrendering in droves well before Hitler killed himself. The government did not officially surrender but everyone knew it was over. And fascist extremists continued to fight well after he died.

[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope. They don't have personalities like Trump. Trump has been a known name since before I was born. Vance? DeSantis? They can't replicate the cult of personality. They might thing they can, but that's the thing about cults. Once the head of the snake is off, it stops acting like a snake

And more like a gross belt

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

That's the popular idea but it's not a one to one analogy. MAGA is also a political movement that thinks it's rebelling against Washington Insiders. That's why he's replaceable.

[–] SquatDingloid@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Well it's either that or a slow and steady decline into complete global extinction of all large animal life including us.

So let's hope for the museums

Buy a gun today, before people are banned from owning them based on political affiliation

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

There is a small Holocaust museum in the town where I currently live. It was founded by Eva Kor, an amazing Holocaust survivor (and Mengele victim) who preached forgiveness, even publicly forgiving the Nazis who tortured her and killed her family. She settled here in Terre Haute, Indiana and eventually opened the museum.

https://candlesholocaustmuseum.org/

Except when school buses are there to force the local kids to go (and I'm sure they aren't really interested), the parking lot is almost always empty.

People don't give a shit about the last Holocaust. No reason for them to give a shit about this one.

There's a reason why a lot of my family tree doesn't fork and it's why I'm getting the fuck out.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

More like a monument celebrating it.

[–] whithom@discuss.online 1 points 1 month ago

Mommy why do they call this a “work camp?”