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It's pretty cruel, particularly for non-native English speakers, that 'lose' and 'loose' seemingly switched spellings, meanings and pronunciations with each other when no one was looking (lemmy.world)
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'Choose' rhymes with 'lose'? I mean c'mon, someone did that shit on purpose 👀

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[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Are you familiar with “The Chaos” by Gerard Nolst Trenité?

Deep breath:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chaos

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I believe the generally accepted scientific term for the English language is "clusterfuck".

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

*kloostaphux

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

*clussturphuck

[–] corvett@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This guy was British, rhyming "via" with "choir"

Previous, precious; fuchsia, via; Pipe, snipe, recipe and choir

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

I think he was Dutch - but they do tend to speak “better” English than the English.

The difference in UK/US (amongst other first language English nations) pronunciation is something I know effects hip-hop lyricism (i.e. rapping) as different pronunciations mean some words only rhyme in your own dialect.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"Made" and "bade" supposedly not rhyming confused me, how is "bade" supposed to be pronounced?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's sounds like "bad", but with a shorter "a", so like "had"

Although I guess "bade" is used nowadays as well don't know how erroneous it's considered to be.

You can here people use it here

https://www.playphrase.me/#%2Fsearch%3Fq=I+bade&pos=4

https://www.playphrase.me/#%2Fsearch%3Fq=bade&pos=4

Seemingly Americans in those clips say "bade" (rhyming with "made") but Brits say "bade" (rhymes with "had")

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But they do rhyme....

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Right, and the poem is written in such a way that implies they do not.