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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

All these answers are so killjoy and boring.

Yes, fantasizing about billionaires fixing everything by making good on their bullshit marketing pitches is very exciting to credulous people.

Building habitats on other worlds doesn't prevent us from caring for this one.

If you believe that there's some magic means to have zero emissions launches into space that are in any way self-sustained without further launches to keep throwing resources after spent resources from an increasingly polluted, depleted, and warming Earth, sure, you can huff that hopium deep and hard and ignore the worsening material reality all around you.

Plus maybe trying to make a liveable environment in space can give us new insights in preserving the one at home.

You've bought deeply into billionaire bullshit and their bogus promises, especially as privatized space travel in the west becomes increasingly vanity tourism and marketing stunts. The accomplishments that such companies' underpaid and overworked workers achieve are not for the common good, nor can they be because they are publicly subsidized private companies seeking to maximize profits and expand their own venture capital appeal, and nothing more.

[–] Omashkooz@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Space exploration isn't unique to capitalist systems.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You seem to be letting your hatred for Musk confuse you about space exploration. NASA and other governmental agencies do very important work when it comes to space exploration

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We all know what NASA research is really for.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

My grandpa helped design and test the tech for ballistic missiles while working as a private contractor for a now defunct aerospace corporation under contract with NASA.

If he was still alive I would say he gets the wall too.

[–] lunar_solstice@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He has Musk Derangement Syndrome 🀣🀣🀣

Too much time reading clickbait

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

"DAE le Musk Derangement Syndrome?"

bazinga

Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy's brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let's just chalk all this up to "Musk Derangement Syndrome" jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Techbros are burning the world down in swathes to fuel their theftboxes at best, and artificial lovers at worst, Neuralink just fucked some guy’s brains up, Cybertrucks keep failing left and goddamn right, but sure, let’s just chalk all this up to β€œMusk Derangement Syndrome” jesus fucking christ I hate you techbro settlers. Please die young of something preventable.

lol this sounds like you have smoke coming out your ears writing it

[–] lunar_solstice@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you string together 2 sentences without culture war tropes?

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Culture war is when a person points out the chauvinism inherent in cracker fantasies about colonizing the stars because there is nowhere left to colonize here without just admitting to themselves they just want to subjugate everyone and everything on earth and above.

@frauddogg@hexbear.net is 100% correct in every single comment they have made in this thread.

I can't really even add anything to this other than say they right fuck off.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"As below, so above" might as well be the settler-colonizer's ethos. "As I subjugate everything below me, I must reach for what's above." At what point is Polly satisfied?

Never, apparently. Humanity will go extinct thanks to this malign tumor on our collective neck.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also funny how libs mistake actual structural material analysis as "culture war tropes" because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad and anything that challenges it must be from the wrong side of said culture war. Which funnily enough is also culture war bullshit.

"Surely I can't be racist I'm one of the good white people!"

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

because their framework for viewing the world is constrained by their MSNBC vs Fox News idea of good and bad

Kinda outs their whole "war is a football game to you" allegation as pure projection, doesn't it? There is fundamentally zero difference between the 'cUlTuRe WaR', the electoral race, and the "professional" handegg games that will go on in two days for these settler liberals.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah they will smugly condescend to us with their "not a team sport" shit all the while demanding we vote for their particular team because harm reduction or whatever. Meanwhile every president and 99% of congress people of either party in my 40 years has done the same genocidal shit.

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you doing a bit?

The allegation was that you're pulling everything back to culture wars, and you instantly started talking about "MSNBC vs Fox" and the USA's two-party system. In a thread about China's space program.

Not beating the allegations.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Where the hell was China even brought up? This thread afaik is about settler brainworms regarding space colonization.

Like colonize is literally in the title of this post.

Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

[–] FrogPrincess@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Allegations of what exactly. What are you alleging about me?

Being unable to formulate a thought, because you're addicted to drawing culture war lines.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I am not even the person that you initially responded to. You're just a lib that is in way over your head in a topic you refuse to engage in critically because it makes you uncomfortable.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Meh I dislike Musk as well but I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies or science/engineering in general.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't let that cloud my judgement of his companies

That says a lot about you, then. The guy's a fascist but you don't care because so-true muh bazingamobiles and space crap!

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Polly's Tenet: "I can excuse anything from anyone if it means my treats arrive on time". My parrot is literally more disciplined than these settler shitstains.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

He isn't even the guy behind any discovery his manifold bought-up companies make. He's just the nepobaby failspawn of blood emerald mining company money in South Africa; and as far as I'm concerned, that makes anything that comes out of his companies while he helms them fruit of the poison tree.

We do not support, uplift, or patronize colonizers, slavers, resource-extracting thieves, or any combination of the three in this house.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

You seem to be conjuring an imaginary psych degree so you can concern troll. Fuck off.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Drej Queen, Earth yearns for the Cleansing Light of extermination

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

speech-r Drej words for "I think I'll just sit back and watch these ignorant humans burn their own planet down while fantasizing about escaping it for now.'