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We subsidize all the wrong things. A McDouble is out of reach for most as a casual snack without subsidies, and arguably it should be out of reach so plant based alternatives have a chance at competing. Same with oil. Should gradually roll back the subsidies so people can have time to switch, but they should still be rolled back.
Save your breath. The people trying to save the planet only ever suggest things that would destroy society, as if they don't live in a house and go to the grocery store same as the rest of us. It's always some 10 second thought of an idea. Not: let's re-educate rural Americans and create food programs that benefit them so much it only makes sense for them to be vegan. No, far too much work. Let's just make burgers more expensive. Cause, ya know, then people couldn't afford them. What a half baked, dumb fuck idea. We. Are. Doomed.
It's not "making burgers more expensive."
It's "stop making burgers artificially cheap to continue bolstering the already rich to the detriment of literally everyone."
Society is destroyed regardless of whether or not you can get a burger for an hour's worth of minimum wage. Sticking your head in the sand and demanding that no one offer solutions if they have food, housing, and clothing, or drive a car, is disingenuous.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but casual snack?
It's a small burger my guy
Then again I'm 6'4" so maybe my perspective is skewed
You're just looking at it from a different angle, that's all
I'm 6'2", wouldn't refer to it as a casual snack. When I hear casual snack, I'm thinking like an orange or a protein bar or something, not a whole-ass burger. Yeah, it's not massive, but not a small snack either
An orange weighs about 150 grams on average
A mcdouble is about 165
So yeah, casual snack
Weird comparison.
A mcdouble is about 400 calories. Whereas a 150g orange is about 75.
Not at all, they're about the same size and mass
We don't eat based exclusively off caloric value and you know it
I think he means in terms of a dollar menu item which sorta disapeared with the latest inflation.
I get that, just commenting on referring to a McDouble as a casual snack
yeah was more the frugal entree choice