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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Everyone who disagrees with me is a paid russian troll of course. Nobody would oppose blacklisting people based on nothing but their nationality unless they were getting paid for it.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I guess it's difficult to otherwise explain the position you have? It's not like people face criminal charges in Russia just for speaking against it. It's easy to see how the state would want to introduce backdoors to most western systems.

It's extremely sad that a lot of good Russians get swooped in this. But even abroad their lives are in danger to fight the state.

[–] korbel@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I doubt if someone wants to introduce a backdoor, they would do that with a russian mailing address. People removed were open and transparent about their nationalities which means there is even less chance them being bad actors than some random guy pretending to be American.

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Aren't the removed commiters with direct access to the kernel? It's not like it's some rando that makes pull requests.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think you’re making up a world in your head. Who are these “lots” of “good” Russians who are abroad and whose lives are in realistically danger of state assassination? Not that it has never happened, but you’re blowing things out of proportion. Probably Russia does it at a scale roughly similar to the US.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

I think you’re making up a world in your head.

My friend, they poisoned people in the UK with a fucking nerve agent. They are so brazen and open about people being killed for not doing that the Kremlin tells them.

They have purposely made a meme out of the "suspiciously fell from window" thing, because they want people to know exactly what happens and why.

[–] sudo@programming.dev -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nerve agents compared to drone strikes look humane and civilized.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disagree. Chemical warfare is an entirely different beast.

[–] sudo@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

We're talking about poisoning a single person not a gas cloud. Poisoning a single person vs drone striking a wedding.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Very nice link that not only does not have a list of names but also fairly explicitly explains that it is not talking about Americans killing Americans.

I am not going to spend more than 30 seconds on it but here is the first list of “lots” of Russians that are believed to have been assassinated by their own government.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_in_2022%E2%80%932024

Despite your personal attacks, the trivially discoverable facts are not on your side.

I used Wikipedia since you apparently find it credible.

My favourite “suicide” of a notable Russian in the last couple of years was the one that had a suicide note signed by “illegible signature” ( what it actually said ). I guess the FSB did not totally understand the instructions.

Indeed A LOT of falling out of windows. Quite a bit of poisoning as well. These are the successful ones. How about that time they poisoned the entire Ukrainian peace team including the owner of the Chelsea Football Club?