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[–] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I've been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I'm seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it'll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

They don't want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can't respond. It's exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ratio of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they'll start looking for other places to infest.

[–] Corvid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

At least Blue Sky supports community block lists. You can block every nazi with the click of a button

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just wait

Dude. It's been 2 years. The people who were going to leave because of Elon already left.

I'm not saying the current twitter userbase 100% fully believe in his views, but I am saying that they're not leaving the platform over it.

Either they don't know about bluesky/mastodon, or they don't care enough to leave.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Uhh, the very existence of this article indicates you're wrong. Elon removed the block feature and even more users left; how can you say that "the people who were going to leave because of Elon have already left"? Certainly the group who disliked Elon on ideological grounds did, but there are plenty of other users who are leaving because they're finally deciding the changes Elon is making removes any value they see in remaining on Twitter.

[–] MapleWanderer@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah bro I wish they would keep to their own echochambers so they can become more and more radicalised and end up causing even more harm in the long run rather than at least having some if minimal exposure to normal fucking people /s

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dude. Isn't truth worth billions?

I guess you're mostly right, but the exception is that they need one safe space in which to congratulate each other and wank about NFTs and what not.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You mean Trump's Twitter clone? Depends on how you define "worth." The total stock valuation is worth that much, but that's because stocks are largely bullshit priced based on how buyers feel. Someone keeps buying the stock, so the price reflects that.

If you're talking about the company itself, it's not worth dick. They have a six or seven digit revenue compared to eight or nine digit losses- there is absolutely no way the stock price represents the "true" value of the company. Given that Trump owns 60% of the shares it's absolutely certain that someone is using it as a way to funnel money to Trump outside of campaign finance laws.

Also, they don't have that many users.

[–] fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're dead right that the company isn't worth anything in a traditional sense.

However, the existence of truth social directly contradicts your claim that they don't want an echo chamber.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

A daily active user count of under 80,000 is utterly meaningless for a social media site.

The right-wing chuds aren't flocking to Truth Social because they can't "own the libs" there. That's what I mean when I say they don't want an echo chamber.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I mean at some point elon will buy bluesky, too

[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Toxicity drives engagement. Engagement means more ad views.

As long as profits are the motive it's a flawed design.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How? I'm mostly following mlp-related accounts on mastodon and don't see any toxicity.

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I haven't seen any toxicity on the server I'm on (https://mastodon.gamedev.place ) either. But I've seen people I follow complain about it in the past, and I trust them. Especially considering they left for Bluesky.

I think Mastodon users are more technical and blunt, drawing from the same stereotypes that people have (often fairly) thrown at nerdier people. We just need to keep that in mind. And maybe a good ad/explainer, given how many people bounce off the concept of federation and different servers.