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[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Many don't even do it intentionally, they just don't grasp concepts like Historical and Dialectical Materialism, which requires reading lengthy books to fully grasp. They may be anti-Capitalist at heart, but without a solid understanding of theory they play into bourgeois hands.

There's also the fact that the ideas held by society are a reflection of the Mode of Production.

[โ€“] Wojwo@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure they'd take everything you just wrote and say, "that sounds like critical race theory, which Jesus said was bad."

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sure. The de-industrialization of America has been devastating for class awareness.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What de industrialization?

US is second largest industrial output and it has been rising.

Unless you mean jobs after NAFTA and code changes... Which is true but manufacturing employment is on the rise post covid reforms

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The US shifted the vast majority of its production overseas, which is why it's seen as a "service economy."

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

US did offshore no doubt but it was not a vast majority. You can check the numbers, there was some decline in employment but US has high tech factories and industrial base is now growing quickly even with job growth since covid.

The reason it is largely a service economy is due to growth in service sector after industrialization. Once people got all their needs with goods met, they started buying service.

Think about all the food joints we have now for example. This is fairly recent thing. Sure food out always existed but not like this.

Also, people have god walkers, people buy insurance etc all this is kinda recent in big picture thing

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I am aware of the process, the US produces the vast majority of its commodities oversees before "finishing" or "assembling" in the US. It's Imperialism in action, where it hyper-exploits the Global South for super-profits.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Right but we started this here with claim that US de industrialized which I saying is not accurate and it is a common misconception thrown around.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It reversed industrialization and shifted internationally.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Industrialization in the US was not reversed, out has been grown even pre covid.

That's my entire point here. This can be easily verified too.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago
[โ€“] Random123@fedia.io 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It doesnt even require that much reading of such subjects. All it takes is to not be brainwashed by media and politicians.

Critical thought and self awareness is all it takes

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, but I entirely disagree. Dialectical and Historical Materialism are incredibly far-removed from standard American discourse and takes quite a bit to understand, oversimplifying it is dangerous. If all it took to be a Marxist-Leninist was critical thought and self-awareness, the US would have had a proletarian revolution already.

[โ€“] GarbageShootAlt2@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Usually it's my friend Cowbee here who tells people to read things, but here I will:

https://redsails.org/masses-elites-and-rebels/

"Brainwashing" is a reactionary myth (that originally comes from orientalist stories of Chinese hypnosis that were used to explain-away defectors in the Korean war) that is used to position the believer in a position superior to the masses ("sheeple"), and which only knows how to treat the latter condescendingly as blind followers of this or that, which is not how you do mass organizing if you want to succeed.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Should be mandatory reading, thanks for posting it!