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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Venom vs poison

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venom

Venom goes in a cut. Poison is swallowed. You can swallow some venom without harm.

[–] ArchAengelus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Poison is generic. Venom is specific to normal method of delivery (e.g. snakes and bees).

Swallowing venom may or may not hurt you. Probably not a great idea, but there’s a better chance you’ll be okay.

Getting a known poison stabbed/injected intravenously seems likely to be pretty effective, but it depends on the mode of action. Blood goes everywhere in the body, so it will likely find its target eventually.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 month ago

My understanding was that toxin is the generic term, poison is usually ingested and venom is delivered into the blood? But it gets often confused in everyday language, and is only accurate when talking about animals. Not a toxicologist, so I might be wildly wrong

[–] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Now I'm curious what the most aggressive venom that can be ingested is

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I remember some years ago that a bar in California was serving shots with black widow spiders in them. So, apparently you can eat the venom from a black widow without issue, and they’re pretty dangerous spiders.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Most of them would be denatured by stomach acidity but the risk of something like paradoxin finding a small route into your blood stream is too damn high.

When it comes to venom that is also used as a toxin in other species, though, and is a big killer of humans, the crown goes to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrodotoxin which is used as both a poison against predators for things like pufferfish and a venom for things like the blue ringed octopus.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Alternatively, his blade was not very deadly unless he got it in someone's mouth.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

"Here, lick my knife."

"No."

"Please?"

"Still no. Who puts a knife in their mouth? If you're trying to poison me, maybe you should put poison on the rim of a stein and offer me some ale."

"I'm the worst assassin ever..."

[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 28 points 1 month ago

That's for poisonous vs venomous, but poison is a generic term, the substance won't care how it got into your bloodstream.

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, but he said it was coated in poison, not venom. Licking it was a proper way to administer the dose.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 month ago

Which makes a very odd choice for a knife.

[–] PLS_HELP@fedia.io 17 points 1 month ago

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/poison

“a substance that through its chemical action usually kills, injures, or impairs an organism”

Poison doesn’t have to be swallowed

[–] robdor@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not if it's venomous poison from Alice Cooper.