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What is the best closing scene in the entire Star Trek Franchise, and why is it Kirk, Spock, and Bones singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat"? (startrek.website)

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Seriously, though. In my opinion, V is by far the worst TOS film, if not the worst of any Star Trek film (Yes, including Kelvin), yet it somehow nailed the ending.

Not to say I hated V that much. I think there's some charm of Kirk, Spock, and Bones breaking out the brig, but the plot is catastrophically bad. I was also annoyed with that one scene with Uhura where they have her seduce some acolytes, which I feel is a disgrace to the character.

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[–] data1701d@startrek.website 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I will clarify I haven't watched a lot of Discovery, Enterprise, or Picard.

However, problems of the sort you mention (not necessarily the exact ones you mention, but similar or of concern) aren't exactly new.

For instance:

TOS showed Chekov assaulting a Klingon women (under the influence of an evil space alien before).
It is heavily implied Spock did something with Saviik in III. Also, in general, they just ruined a good female character. (III might actually rival V in terms of being the worst Trek film.)
TNG did "Code of Honor".
Also, TNG very much did weird things to Troi, including rape to rape-adhacent things. Not necessarily as bad as T'Pel, from what I can tell, but still messed up nonetheless.
I'm sure there's an example for DS9, but my mind subconsciously puts it in a pedestal and is blocking me at the moment.
VOY unnecessarily sexualizes Seven.

I think the truth of all Star Trek is it is flawed, but that we can critically acknowledge those flaws while managing to look past them so we can appreciate and enjoy the good parts.

[–] notgold@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Hear hear. There's still a lot of good in there even with the examples you have given