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[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago (16 children)

Welp, I guess we'll all have to suffer the consequences so that Lordkitsuna can game in the middle of nowhere. Truly first world problems.

https://www.space.com/starlink-satellite-reentry-ozone-depletion-atmosphere

[–] dubious@lemmy.world -5 points 14 hours ago (9 children)

lordkitsuna is the answer, dude. more people getting away from the grind of the big machine to live remote lives far from society is the answer. i don't like starlink either but these networks are crucial for the modern nomad to exist.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

The answer to what? If everyone does this, there won't be a single remote place on earth that isn't crawling with sprinter vans. It can't scale, and it doesn't need to be specifically catered to. You want the wilderness, you get the wilderness. You want low latency Internet, then get to a fiber connection. We don't need every first world amenity everywhere.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

nah. you can live in the city if that's what you like. i'll do what i like. do you really want to alienate non-urban liberals?

depopulation is a possible alternative to preventing swarms of sprinter vans too. you really don't want to put everyone in a city.

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to alienate anyone, I'm trying to understand why low latency gaming needs for digital nomads is worth the real downsides of providing such a service (scientific, GHG, atmospheric tinkering, etc). I also believe that we should leave a lot more of the earth alone and that nature matters. I'm not trying to put people anywhere, just recognizing there are pros and cons to different living schemes, humans are social creatures, and population of 2 areas don't warrant large societal investments. I'm similarly against a hypothetical drone sushi delivery service for rural Canadadian boreal forests if that happens to have real downsides too.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

who said anything about gaming? what if you work remotely and can't afford rent? what if you feel unsafe around gatherings of people (including small towns)?

[–] spidermanchild@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The original post I responded to was someone talking about how starlink lets them game in a rural RV. What about carbon emissions from thousands of rocket launches? What about atmospheric damage? What about astronomy? I'm saying the downsides don't appear to be worth the upsides for these niche scenarios. Humanity survived just fine for quite some time before ultra remote Internet became a thing.

[–] dubious@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

look, i hate it too. i don't want these things in my night sky either, but just give us anti-social, edge-of-civilization dwellers some respect and recognition. we're not trying to take any more than we need.

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