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[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (26 children)

There's a long, documented, researched, history of men being raised to expect things from women. It's not just housework but all kinds of things are taken much more seriously when a woman does something "wrong" than when a man does. It takes a lot of serious introspection and effort to break out of that programming so it's not a surprise that the majority of men don't, or only do so partially. The default state is that this stuff is sort of "invisible" because it seems so normal to how things are. So no, this is a factual description of a "standard" behaviour for men that only some are able to avoid.

If you at all accept that there are harmful but culturally ingrained gender roles then this is a natural consequence of that for anyone who hasn't deeply and actively questioned them. Then as those roles are indeed slowly being broken down it stands to reason that each successive generation is less willing to put up with them - but if you still see them as normal it will come as a surprise.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There’s a long, documented, researched, history of men being raised to expect things from women.

I find the implication that there is not also a long, documented, researched, history of women being raised to expect things from men, quite amusing in its ignorance.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

That is in absolutely no way implied by that statement; the existance of a truth does not imply the existance of it's inverse.

[–] elidoz@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

yes but focusing on one side of the discussion ignoring its counterpart is a clear sign of bias, so despite being technically correct it's unhelpful

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

What?? Keeping a discussion to one aspect of a topic is absolutely not an example of bias, it's an example of contextual scope. It's the only reason we can have a discussion about anything without having to include the full context it's situated within (which would be the entire universe).

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