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Police opened fire on a subway platform in Brooklyn during a confrontation with an alleged fare-beater, striking the man cops said was armed with a knife, two straphangers caught in the fray, and one of the firing officers, NYPD officials said Sunday.

One of those two passengers hit by the cops' bullets, a 49-year-old man, was hospitalized in critical condition after he was hit struck in the head, according to the NYPD.

The two officers who opened fire were assigned to patrol the Sutter Avenue subway stop in the 73rd precinct when they spotted a man skip the station turnstile and walk through an open gate toward the train platform, Chief of Department Jeffrey Maddrey explained at an evening press conference from Brookdale Hospital.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 237 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Ahh yes. Nothing like killing a perp and a few bystanders for a few dollars' worth of fare. USA! USA!

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 125 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I think if people had even more guns this could have been avoided. What if there was a six year old with a 22 there to respond to the gunshots with some of his own? maybe less people would be dead.

Guns make everyone way safer. We need to start providing them in utero.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

How dare you politicize gun violence while a police officer is injured!

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

You mean the one that shot the other people? Officer mental health is important! Someone think of the shooter!!

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Take the guns from the police and give them to the embryos. I think you're on to something here.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 16 points 3 months ago

Right, or the bystander that got shot in the head could have returned fire, if only he were armed

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why stop at guns? Everyone should have access to portable WMDs to keep the world safe.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hey, we have to draw the line somewhere. Let's stop at a gigaton.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think it’s also the responsible thing to limit our young people to the kiloton range until they are 21.

[–] Lets_Eat_Grandma@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

Make sure the 17 year olds in the military get the good stuff though.

[–] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 months ago

Abortions are prebirth, so should guns

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This has been an ongoing problem in the city. Fuckin Mayor Officer Landlord has been dumping millions into multiple cops sitting on platforms, on their phones, watching for people jumping the 2.90 fare. Which they just raised from 2.70. They’re more than spending what they’re hypothetically losing on fare jumpers. Neoliberal capitalist bullshit in action.

[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Meanwhile in Albuquerque we've made buses free because the fare infrastructure costs more than to run the buses.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They stopped him for a few dollars' worth of fare.
They shot him for charging at them with a knife.

[–] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 36 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We’ll see if that story pans out, I’m sure the body cam footage is coming any minute…

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The statement by the Department Chief literally references that there is body cam footage, that is the source of information for the statement.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

No no no. They mean the footage being released for public scrutiny. The police have lied about the body camera footage before.

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The uniformed duo followed the alleged fare-beater up the stairs to the elevated L train platform around 3 p.m., when they gave him commands to stop and turn around. Maddrey said during a verbal altercation, they "became aware of a knife."

Body-worn camera footage, which Maddrey said he reviewed before the press conference, allegedly showed the man make a verbal threat to the officers. He told the cops, "I'm going to kill you if you don't stop following me," the chief said.

As the encounter continued to escalate, a northbound L train pulled into the station. The train cars opened and the man jumped inside, according to police.

Where is this knife charge mentioned?

[–] Malfeasant@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago

He was charging... away... with his knife...

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Maddrey said the officers followed the man, each firing a Taser which proved ineffective in subduing the man. He then exited the train while it was still at the station and charged the officers with the knife, the chief said.

it was the next sentence from what you copied lol

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

So this guy charged at them, then got tased and then got on a train car and got away... right

Was he on the limitless pill maybe? Maybe that's secretly why they chased after him so hard?

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

bro, what? did you even read the article? they shot him? he didn't get away?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

they shot him when he was running away from them?

[–] b3an@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I know it’s like that by headline, but they repeatedly tried to subdue him and eventually he charged at them with a knife after having said “I’ll kill you”. I don’t know I would hesitate to stop him without my gun if he suddenly ran at me with a knife. I’m just thinking survival, instinctively, and not about bystanders around me in that moment.

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I’m just thinking survival, instinctively, and not about bystanders around me in that moment.

Kind of fair point for yourself.

However I expect more of a trained professional who has repeated firarms training. They should be sesitized to controlling their direction of fire even in an emergency.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 3 months ago

It really is bizarre how many people seem to just accept lower standards for police than for random Joe gun owner off the street. It’s not confusing though; it’s just another facet of the great team sport of society for many people.

If we’re supposed to value and respect our police, maybe we should actually expect good things from them!

[–] Rinox@feddit.it 5 points 3 months ago

That's not even the point. The training should have taught them how to de-escalate the situation, or even let it go. They transformed a 3$ fare skipped into a massacre, how's that normal?

It's 3$, if he has a knife, just let him go, it's not worth the risk. You'll track him down later and get him without killing him, passerbys and other cops.

You don't need to drop a nuke because there's a pickpocketer somewhere in the city

[–] kralk@lemm.ee 6 points 3 months ago

Ok, so these people are too incompetent to win a 4v1 against an untrained opponent? Is this better somehow?

[–] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago

If a guy doesn't pay $3, has a knife and threatens the police -> mental problem. The answer isn't shooting but handling the situation and deescalating.