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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe, but they attract attention. This kind of attention, although bad, will bring people to talk.

[–] Skua@kbin.earth 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The problem is it just brings people to talk about how awful these climate protestors are for vandalising things people feel culturally attached to. The conversation is never about climate change.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

It does help that "actually they haven't destroyed a single work of art" is a pretty good entry point to explain how protests are just a way of displaying group outrage

Civil rights were won by relentlessly challenging the courts, exhausting the public so much it blew back on the government administration, and with the armed black Panthers present as an implicit threat - "if you decide to throw out the law, so will we"

[–] The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 month ago

It does bring up the topic of climate change several times, and yet's still more than the protest that do happen, but you never hear about because they don't inconvenience anyone. There have been plenty of instances of protests vandalizing rich people's yachts, for example, but that doesn't make the headlines and people don't care, so no attention is raised and it's ultimately meaningless.