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Friendly reminder that you can have a libertarian communist commune. Libertarianism is not a left-right political ideology.
"I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question."
I read the book "A Libertarian Walked into a Bear" and I found the range of Libertarian attitudes interesting — there was at least one Libertarian in the book who explicitly identified as communist.
In my personal opinion, the core defining trait that makes someone libertarian is adherence to the non aggression policy. If they are capable of that then they are libertarian in my book. Even if I disagree on other aspects of their ideology.
But that's the whole debate, isn't it? What is and isn't aggression?
I don't understand where you're getting a debate from. It's pretty easy to summarize as. Don't shit in the Common well don't pollute the common air. Don't trespass on your neighbor's property. Don't touch your neighbor's things. Never resort to violence unless for self-defense.
Property is theft!
That's an opinion. I don't know where you found it but it's an opinion.
Your libertarian journey is just beginning, my friend.
I'm a capitalist sweetie
I believe in minarchism and capitalism
Seriously bro, look up the history of libertarianism! Even if it doesn't change your mind about anything, it's useful to understand the context.
— Murray N. Rothbard, The Betrayal Of The American Right
I would advise you to go further back and read Locke and Thoreau
Capitalist minarchism is a branch of Lockeism
The theory is rooted in laws of nature that Locke identifies, which permit individuals to appropriate, and exercise control rights over, things in the world, like land and other material resources. In other words, Locke's theory is a justificatory account about the legitimacy of private property rights.
However, I am partial to several of thoreau's Geoism points
I have, that's why I consider it an open debate and not a settled matter. :-) Geoism is a great example because we created the products of our labor, but not the land on which they rest.
The Lockean Proviso says we just need to leave enough for others, but there's no longer any livable unclaimed land left on Earth. If there's no place left for anyone to realistically homestead, then every landlord is violating the NAP. We can't just disappear into the woods and be left alone anymore - "you're camping on private property".