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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

the vast majority of plant matter fed to animals is waste product. they eat parts of plants that people can't or won't eat. so those plants are killed first for us, then the animals. and the point of the plant objection is not the amount of suffering, but the fact that no one cares if plants are killed, and only vegetarians and vegans care if animals are killed

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.org 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

This is wrong. Nearly all (source) of the soy the Amazonas gets destroyed for is animal feed. We give about one third of the global grain we produce to animals, we could end global hunger if we'd give it to humans. Plus we could reforest vast regions, so we don't die, as a species. Go vegan please.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

global hunger is caused by greed, not eating traditional foods

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

there is no reason to believe deforested areas would not become further developed if agriculture becomes untenable

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

you can see soy cake, which would otherwise be industrial waste, makes up the vast majority of the soy crop that becomes animal feed

[–] DarthFrodo@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Soy cake can be used to produce textured vegetable protein (meat alternatives), tofu, tempeh, soy milk, protein powder, biofuels and bioplastics, for example.

Calling that industrial waste is just a complete joke.

The land could also be used to grow other crops for human consumption.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

The land could also be used to grow other crops for human consumption.

to be clear, the land is already being used to grow crops for human consumption.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Soy cake can be used to produce textured vegetable protein

but most people don't want to eat it. you enumerated many of the uses it has been put to, but the fact is that we produce far more soy cake than is used in those other industries, and feeding it to animals is a good use for it.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

you're wrong. soy is a great example: about 85% of the global crop is pressed for soybean oil. the byproduct would be industrial waste if it weren't fed to livestock

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago

your land use map isn't damning in my opinion: making food is a good use of land.