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[–] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The devil doesn't need an advocate

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Au contraire, the devil absolutely needs an advocate, to make sure he's being called out on the right bullshit and not just whatever accusation is thrown his way.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quite the opposite actually, otherwise lemmy will just devolve into another echo chamber, just like Twitter has, and most social media sites. The down votes I got simply for bringing up points that might happen to not fit the hive mind mentality are just as common here obviously, even when expressing up front that I don't actually believe those points.

Amazing how fragile some people are, so filled with hatred over a billionaire that lives rent free in their head and doesn't even think about them at all that they downvote a discussion simply because it might bring up valid points they hadn't considered in their knee jerk reaction.

[–] JWBananas@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You aren't being downvoted "simply for bringing up points that might happen to not fit the hive mind mentality." You're being downvoted for making up a contrived excuse that was easily disproven by the fucking thumbnail, let alone the article, for your own titillation.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry if I don't know everything about how the shitbox of Twitter functions and don't trust the current the message to actually be truthful.

It could have been that Twitter followed redirects to display the final link in the message, but any of the links in that process through suspicious domains would prompt the message, regardless of the actual endpoint.

Just because we know the most likely reason, that doesn't mean we can't discuss other alternatives, even if they're less likely, or even unlikely.

It's clear now that no one here either understands the purpose of a devil's advocate for discussion, or cares to have an actual discussion, instead preferring to just have every post be a "fuck Elon" circlejerk. So I'll let you all get back to handling that with each other. Amazing how fast lemmy just turned into another reddit with a complete lack of real discussion anywhere, just the same bullshit everywhere as if it does anything.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I get and appreciate devil's advocate sort of approach. I sometimes do that. But I do so by trying to find additional context and concrete information. I don't think it's as useful to go to some lengths to invent hypotheticals not in evidence. Here we have the full link in context with Twitter list of reasons of why they could mark it unsafe. Reading through that list and that link, there's not a whole lot of room for a surprisingly understandable non obvious reason to put above the more straightforward explanation.