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The problem with your viewpoint is that it's little more than a thought experiment. Realistically, you will never get all 8 billion people who inhabit this planet to make the necessary lifestyle changes needed to combat climate change.
https://www.wri.org/insights/4-charts-explain-greenhouse-gas-emissions-countries-and-sectors
This one throws has some good figures: https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/global-greenhouse-gas-overview
Sources we could attribute to individuals:
In total, 21%. Even if we said that's still a 21% we could do something about, besides switching to a green energy provider and using an EV instead of diesel cars (which is a good move though sourcing the Lithium-Ion batteries these EVs is a big problem in and of itself), what else is there for the average Joe to do? Companies and governments should give individuals the option to lead a sustainable lifestyle. At the moment, the reality is the options simply do not exist or are so expensive that are out of reach for the vast majority of consumers.
On the other hand, we have industrial and public usage...
That's a staggering 80% altogether.
You ever heard of the Pareto principle? It says that 80% of the consequences come from 20% of the causes. In this case, 80% of the emissions come from a minority of people (industry, corporations, etc.).
Oh there are huge problems with my viewpoint - I wouldn't even say it's rational lol! I think that's probably why I have trouble with the great rational arguments like yours (and many others in this thread).
I didn't know there was a proper name for the 80/20 rule, thanks!