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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 36 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Ever notice how Ukraine has to beg for support but Taiwan has a blank check against a far more capable potential enemy?

Just noticing that maybe Ukraine should start making semiconductors.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

I think it’s also that opposing China is bipartisan, but the Republicans take bribes from Putin.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Taiwan does not have a blank check.

The US has backed away from any language of the martial agreements with Taiwan.

Have you noticed how aggressive China has been to Taiwan ? Or is it only bad if it is Japan being aggressive towards Taiwan ?

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

When was Japan last aggressive to Taiwan? Genuinely curious.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So does Israel. Israel receives checks for weapons and armaments they can resell, ~~Ukraine receives loans along with the associated debt~~. It's a regional power thing for the US, treat certain friendly countries at strategic hotspots in such a way that they hold key industries or resources others have to rely on, creating a situation of mutual dependence and giving an incentive for other countries to also support them. Ukraine has Europe and NATO right beside it, so it's much less on the priority list for the US.

It also creates a bunch of problems, specially when it involves a country that's borderline religious neocolonialism, and doesn't work that well against large world and regional powers that are working together like China, Russia, or even Iran.

But Ukraine really does deserve better.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What a stupid fucking comment. How about you open your eyes bud? We have a lot of business with China, China isn't posturing with war and crying about NATO expansionism and threatening to use nukes.

Get it yet? Probably not, so I'll help you some more.

The US can build up the defenses of Taiwan because they have no active warzone/conflict. Taiwan isn't wanting to strike inside Chinese territory. The US cannot give Ukraine everything they want without restriction (because they DO want to strike inside Russia, and rightly so) without triggering Russian escalation WHICH INCLUDES VARIOUS NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

When NUCLEAR WEAPONS are used, the rest of the world WILL get involved. NATO is not just being a jerk about things for fucks sake.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

You're not wrong...

Nations will certainly bend over backward to ensure access to strategic resources. Unfortunately for Ukraine, grain isn't a highly demanded resource.

Finding some niche technology or product to specialize in would probably be a really good idea. They have experience with rocket engine manufacturing, though that's not a huge market. I suppose they could always extend that to munitions manufacturing, it seems there's always a market for that... Sigh...