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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

US citizens give way WAY too much credit to their founders. Calling them "founding fathers" almost sounds like it's a religion. I'm sure they were smart guys in their time, but they too were flawed and made a shit tonne of mistakes, like everybody else. Just fix those mistakes already.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's totally cringe when people call those slavers their daddies. Definitely a symptom of a much larger, wacko cult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They were fans of Montesquieu, but they also thought the VP should be the runner up in the election and that self interest would prevent one group from attaining too much power

In this case for example: the judge would want to avoid being labeled as partial because he would ruin his family name and lose his profession

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not just that. People fought duels over their honor in the past. We don't have duels anymore, so we shouldn't rely on a judge to recuse themselves.

It is a founding concept of European law that no one should be a judge in their own case:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemo_iudex_in_causa_sua

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago

Duelling wouldn’t apply to this case

For obvious reasons a judge wouldn’t duel parties in a civil (or criminal) case but also the judge would be ruining his own honour

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Most of them were barely old enough to be fathers. Sure you had a few old guys, but most of the idea men were in their 20s or early 30s.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

yep. be specific - Committee of Five