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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 149 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Wait

"Our community has literally cooked 100s of millions of times with our app. Unfortunately, each connected cook costs us money."

The cooker, It's FUCKING Bluetooth. It doesn't need to call home, it can't call home. The App, It has a list of 35 different sous vide recipes that could live on the app. The app has no business calling home, they don't need a server.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)

They need if they were to push firmware updates via the app that are then installed over Bluetooth, like some headphones do. But that should be a free service, and also optional. I don't really see any groundbreaking functionality added for a device that's basically a submerged motor with a temperature probe.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 months ago

It's a decade old cooking appliance .

What possible firmware updates could it need at this point?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Firmware updates should not cost a subscription fee and could open them up to lawsuits.

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Temperature Temperature set point Deadband Heater power Time Display temperature Display time

This can literally be handled with two non-microprocessor integrated circuits and $5 in other electronic Lego components.

It doesn't need firmware. It's a $200 oversized fish tank heater.

[–] the_strange@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Even in that case the app doesn't need to phone home. It doesn't even need an internet connection on its own. You'd have to download the update yourself and then use the app to apply the patch, which is less user friendly to not-so-tech-savy users but possible. Just send an email with the necessary information to users who have subscribed to receive these kind of updates.

[–] Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And if each did cost them money - they’ve been paid when the stupid thing was purchased!

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's a $200 heater. Probably $30 in parts. You can run a small cluster for the profit in a few sales a month.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's a cooker. Why the hell does it even need bluetooth, let alone an internet connection?

[–] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

So it can notify you when the water has reached the set temperature or the time you set for cooking is up. Which can be handy. However, I found the BT very weak on my Anova and it would lose connection when I went into my home office a mere 25' away, so I stopped using it. There's actually no need for the water to be up to temperature before you put your food in, and food can sit as long as you want; half the point of sous vide is to be able to hold food at temp without overcooking. So you don't really need the timer either.

[–] tburkhol@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I have something similar, but wifi. Never even tried to connect to it, because you just use the buttons to set temp & time.

I can imagine, though, that an app might have buttons for 'eggs', 'yogurt', 'steak', etc. Or maybe let you program temperature-time sequences. Or let you check how much time is left from the next room. Conveniences. Definitely no need for them to phone home, though, except maybe for an ad-driven 'recipe of the week' type thing.