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[–] Steve@communick.news 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Neurons are very much binary. They receive enough simulation to fire or they don't. They don't fire with variable strengths.

Brains are literally just biologically grown electrochemical computers.

[–] botengang@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They fire at different rates are though.

[–] Steve@communick.news 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any logic gate will fire a different rates depending on how frequently it's fire conditions are met.

Still binary.

[–] botengang@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's just plainly wrong. If neurons are "activated" (the binary analogy) it starts firing, but at varying rates depending on how far above it's threshold the activation happened. A bit like an activation level to frequency converter, but non-linear.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think we just have different interpretations of the same behavior. I feel like we're describing the exact same thing, just with different definitions.

It's common for binary systems to pulse at different frequencies. That's how binary data transmission works.

[–] botengang@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, but a binary gate reacts to a change in inputs exactly once by adjusting its own state. If the inputs change faster the frequency will change of course, but that's not the point. Neurons will fire pulse trains with different rates for two different inputs that a binary system would both interpret as "on". It's a much more analog and continuous system in that regard.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 1 year ago

Again we agree completely, and are just calling the same thing two different things.

[–] DozensOfDonner@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

True but they are rates of events, which could be said to be 0 for nothing and 1 for a spike.

That being said there are definitely some things in the way neurons behave that are not very binary, from the potentials driving ion flow to the way certain proteins act. Complex on amazing levels but I'd say it's stil just a gloopy predicting computer.

[–] andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

It's true. You a neuroscientist?