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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

True, as far as big leaps go there hasn't mean anything since the introduction of lithium based batteries to the market.

Until now. This is it and they have production working. Safer than lithium. Longer lasting, quicker charging, should perform fine in extreme cold, more energy dense, and solid state.

The next big thing is finally here.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I know you're correct, since there are now solid state batteries on the market which outperform liquid-electrolyte LiPo batteries, but just stating "we're at the tipping point" without dropping any link as evidence makes your claim very unconvincing.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That guy on Undecided is a bit of a dunce. He never actually checked or tested in any way that the yoshino psu uses real solid state batteries. He just bought it from Amazon and it's advertised on Amazon as having them.

But they likely aren't solid state batteries in that psu he bought. He even admitted as much in a podcast just last week.

Other people have done teardowns on those yoshino batteries and have apparently found that they are not solid state. They still contain a liquid.

Here. I think he talks about it somewhere around 25 minutes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aciA1dKz5iE

[–] JayDee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So we're still in a limbo period with nothing actually on the market.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Correct, but it's on well enough authority that the batteries exist and are in production and that units are in the hands of EV manufacturers for them to play around with. Consider it like the time period when no one has the next game system yet, but everyone knows that all the game developers have the dev kit for the soon to be released system.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Until now. This is it and they have production working.

I hope you're right, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A giant name like samsung and the auto makers they've teamed up with like Toyota aren't going to bullshit about the batteries being in production. There's no benefit to doing so. It's not like they're trying to raise investment capital.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Samsung is not the "bullshitter". Samsung did not write this article. Samsung didn't claim that these will be in cars or anywhere else anytime soon.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes they have. Not from this article, though. Same for Toyota. They announced a 2027(likely) solid state battery EV months ago.

As for "samsung didn't claim this", they put the battery on display at the trade show in Seoul, and it's been reported by tons of outlets. Samsung has very clearly announced it.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago

No they haven't. Samsung didn't say they have a 600 mile battery. The author did. Which is nonsense for a variety of reasons, which is exactly my point

They announced a 2027(likely) solid state battery EV months ago.

...likely? Based on what?

they put the battery on display

No one is trying to claim the battery doesn't exist so I'm not sure what your point is.