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Israel’s male flagbearer at Friday’s opening ceremony of the Paris 2024 Olympic Games is believed to have signed bombs prior to them being fired against the Palestinians in Gaza, Anadolu has reported. Peter Paltchik, 32, used social media to show him writing “From me to you with pleasure” on munitions destined for Gaza.

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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Americans famously signed the first bombs dropped on Japan after peral harbor - and attached the trinkets that were brought by the Japanese peace negotiatiors.

Of course, the mear existence of the negotiators show that America was taking hostile action aganst japan prior to Pearl Harbor.

[–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I love how you're being down voted for facts lol. Also as an FYI, Americans know nothing about the oil embargoes on Japan and how Indonesia and the Philippines played into japan's needs. The US choke holded Japan and they had like a year left before everybody would freeze and starve. So Pearl Harbour it was, and they got lucky the US just happened to park all the ships there, they weren't planning on it. But that news isn't taught to Americans. They truly believe it was an unprovoked attack out of the blue.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

They could have always, (checks notes), not invaded China or Vietnam.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hostile actions? Like denying oil to the country that bombed our ships, went on a war crimes rampage in China, and invaded allied territory?

Yeah. Totally hostile action there. Japan attacked us because we refused to sell them resources.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was comparing it to what Israel did to Gaza pre-Oct 6th. Denying resources to a country that bombed israeli citizens and was run by war-criminals? Justified. Being surprised and calling it "unprovoked" when they strike back? Unjustified.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

It's a completely different situation. The entire paradigm was Israel's setup. In order for your analogue to work we'd have to have been completely blockading Japan for a decade, not just refusing to sell them oil. And we'd have to have interfered with their elections, refusing to let the winner actually take office. And we'd need decades of history where we wantonly murdered them for their land.

If you want to talk about American settlers in the old west, that would be the direct comparison. This is a tale we've seen before. And we're determined to stop it this time.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I am sure there is some place America has been blockading for decades and interfering in elections that I could find to make a comparison, but my main point still stands that "completely out of the blue attacks" rarely are that.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Sure. We can agree on that.