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However I find myself being disagreed with quite often, mostly for not advocating or cheering violence, "by any means possible" change, or revolutionary tactics. It would seem that I'm not viewed as authentically holding my view unless I advocate extreme, violent, or radical action to accomplish it.

Those seem like two different things to me.

Edit: TO COMMUNISTS, ANARCHISTS, OR ANYONE ELSE CALLING FOR THE OVERTHROW OF SOCIETY

THIS OBVIOUSLY ISN'T MEANT FOR YOU.

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[โ€“] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If all those people disagree with you, what kinds of people do you imagine would say yes? Nancy Pelosi? Chelsea Clinton?

[โ€“] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

Well believe it or not, communists and anarchists are a fairly small minority of the group that would be "the left" if you call the other guys "the right."

I expect it's more than two people I could hear from...๐Ÿ™„

Anyway this post sort of answered the question. The violent talk is coming from socialists, communists, and anarchists here on Lemmy, which have a very unified voice and shout down opposition.

Although I'm sure if they had anything they had to actually run (like a country) they'd be an absolute horror show of fighting, arguing, and bloodbathing each other until they got to the point where the strongest survived and could impose their vision of utopia on the masses.

[โ€“] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

Although I'm sure if they had anything they had to actually run (like a country) they'd be an absolute horror show of fighting, arguing, and bloodbathing each other until they got to the point where the strongest survived and could impose their vision of utopia on the masses.

China is currently installing the equivalent of 5 nuclear power stations' worth of solar and wind power every week.

Meanwhile in the west AOC and Bernie groveled at the feet of the democratic party by endorsing Biden's genocidal regime and all they got in return was Biden announcing a plan to cap rent increases at 5%, which can only go through if they win the next election... against a fascist candidate who is far ahead of Biden in almost every swing state.

See why we want revolution?

[โ€“] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

What? What other groups make up the left then? Do they wield political power? Have they ever gotten to wield political power? Because the only left that has ever gotten to wield political power and use it to liberate the working people from capitalist oppression are the ones who were willing to pick up a gun and fight.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

Do you think the Left/Right divide is determined by the absolute median position, or is it determined by actual views, ie a general support for Socialism vs a general support for Capitalism?

Although I'm sure if they had anything they had to actually run (like a country) they'd be an absolute horror show of fighting, arguing, and bloodbathing each other until they got to the point where the strongest survived and could impose their vision of utopia on the masses.

Historically false for pretty much every AES country.