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[–] BlueLineBae@midwest.social 108 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I would already like to buy a 4k TV that isn't smart and have yet to find it. Please don't add AI into the mix as well :(

[–] HATEFISH@midwest.social 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Look into commercial displays

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 46 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The simple trick to turn a "smart" TV into a regular one is too cut off its internet access.

[–] HATEFISH@midwest.social 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Except it will still run like shit and may send telemetry via other means to your neighbors same brand TV

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've never heard of that. Do you have a source on that? And how would it run like shit if you're using something like a Chromecast?

[–] T4V0@lemmy.pt 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know about the telemetry, but my smart tv runs like shit after being on for a few hours. Only a full power cycle makes it work properly again.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Mine still takes several seconds to boot android TV just so it can display the HDMI input, even if not connected to internet. It has to be always plugged on the power because if there is a power cut, it needs to boot android TV again.

My old dumb TV did that in a second without booting an entire OS. Next time I need a big screen, it will be a computer monitor.

[–] doofy77@aussie.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Still uses the shitty 'smart' operating system to handle inputs and settings.

I got a roku tv and i don't even know what that means cuz my tele will never see the outside world

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I just bought a commercial display directly from the Bengal stadium. Still has Wi-Fi.

[–] notnotmike@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was just thinking the other day how I'd love to "root" my TV like I used to root my phones. Maybe install some free OS instead

[–] lone_faerie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 months ago

You can if you have a pre-2022 LG TV. It's more akin to jailbreaking since you can't install a custom OS, but it does give you more control.

https://rootmy.tv

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

All TVs are dumb TVs if they have no internet access

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

We got a Sceptre brand TV from Walmart a few years ago that does the trick. 4k, 50 inch, no smart features.

[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I just disconnected my smart TV from the internet. Nice and dumb.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Still slow UI.
If only signage displays would have the fidelity of a regular OLED consumer without the business-usage tax on top.

[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What do you use the UI for? I just turn my TV on and off. No user interface needed. Only a power button on the remote.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Even switching to other stuff right after the boot (because the power-on can't be called a simple power-on anymore) the tv is slow.
I recently had the pleasure of interacting with a TV from ~2017 or 2018. God was it slow. Especially loading native apps (Samsung 50"-ish TV)

I like my chromecast. At least that was properly specced. Now if only HDMI and CEC would work like I'd like to :|

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Signage TVs are good for this. They're designed to run 24/7 in store windows displaying advertisements or animated menus, so they're a bit pricey, and don't expect any fancy features like HDR, but they've got no smarts whatsoever. What they do have is a slot you can shove your own smart gadget into with a connector that breaks oug power, HDMI etc. which someone has made a Raspberry Pi Compute Module carrier board for, so if you're into, say, Jellyfin, you can make it smart completely under your own control with e.g. libreELEC. Here's a video from Jeff Geerling going into more detail: https://youtu.be/-epPf7D8oMk

Alternatively, if you want HDR and high refresh rates, you're okay with a smallish TV, and you're really willing to splash out, ASUS ROG makes 48" 4K 10-bit gaming monitors for around $1700 US. HDMI is HDMI, you can plug whatever you want into there.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't have a TV, but doesn't a smart TV require internet access? Why not just... not give it internet access? Or do they come with their own mobile data plans now meaning you can't even turn off the internet access?

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They continually try to get ob the Internet, it's basically malware at this point. The on board SoC is also usually comically underpowered so the menus stutter.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never needed a TV, but now I for sure am not getting one.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 months ago

IDK why people are downvoting you, I am sure you're not alone with that sentiment.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of TVs are requiring an account login before being able to use it.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

OK, that's really fucked. What the hell? Wait a moment... that means they could turn the use of the TV into a subscription at any time! That's crazy...

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