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[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (5 children)

Ah great - SCOTUS will likely side with the e-sig companies, with absolutely no bribes involved, then e-cig companies will flood the market with colourful, flavoured products designed to entice young people (who may never have smoked otherwise) into starting on e-cigs.

I knew what these were the moment I first saw them advertised as a way to get people to quit smoking - they are, and always were a trojan horse designed to entice a new generation of nicotine addicts. Nothing more, nothing less.

[–] justgohomealready@sh.itjust.works 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I actually used vapes (the "real" ones) to stop smoking. It took years, but having the capability of controlling how much nicotine I had in my vape liquid was key. Eventually I brought it down to zero, and was able to stop.

This said, in europe the market is being flooded with disposable, colourful vapes - and those are an abomination. Just thinking of trashing all those lithium batteries makes me angry.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Here in Canada they are replacing refillable vapes with those trash filling disposable and the only nicotine level available are 20 or 0. No more 12, 6, 3mg, noooooo that would actually help reducing nicotine intake.

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The 20mg ones are nic salts which work a bit differently which is why they're stronger. The refillable "freebase juice" is what came in 3, 6, 12mg and it sounds like it's getting banned. Nic salt is supposed to be used at much lower wattage so that you get less with each puff but it works faster (similar to a cigarette). Pretty much all the disposables use nic salts.

[–] VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

I get it but it still would be great to have stepping down levels of nicotine. Why 20 only. I want to quit not replace.

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