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[–] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 228 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (13 children)

I think the real upsetting thing isn't Biden's performance, or having Biden as president for four more years. He achieved quite a bit after all. The real upsetting thing is the DNC being such cunts that they even pushed for this debate, hoping that Biden could win, only to deny and ignore Biden's abhorrent performance immediately after. That Bernie got shafted twice by them, that is the really upsetting part.

[–] whocares314@lemmy.world 71 points 4 months ago (3 children)

It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that the DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win. None of the shitty things that Trump wants to do will hurt them, (stupid take if they cared at all about their descendants but they’re either too arrogant or too ignorant to worry about that) but actual progressive policies that helped average people WOULD hurt their way of life. Marginally. Like, the tiniest little amount. Like, your yacht can only have one master bedroom instead of four. But why give that up when you don’t have to?

“It’s a big club, and you ain’t in it”

I’m voting for Biden though, and I’ll keep voting as progressively as possible in the down ballot elections. If a progressive movement from the bottom up can start by doing things like getting rid of FPTP, we still have a chance. And to anyone thinking about not voting, please do. The president is one person. They are the single most powerful person individually, (taking aside impact on the judicial system) but the collective impact on your day to day life is far more influenced by down ballot positions. Research your down ballot candidates and vote. Many of those races are decided by only a handful of votes. Yours matters.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 37 points 4 months ago

DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win

This was made perfectly clear in 2016 when Hillary stole the nom by colluding with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

If people haven’t caught on by now, they haven’t been paying attention. Or are just willfully ignorant.

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

It seems pretty obvious to me at this point that the DNC would rather lose than have an actual progressive win.

It's not in their interests to let a progressive win. Just like their counterpart, the DNC takes a shit ton of ~~bribery~~ donations from ~~corporations~~ lobbyists. Bringing in a progressive who would reform the system or push back against pro-corporate policies is biting the hands that feed them.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

DNC should've started promoting someone else as Presidential candidate since the last 4 years and let Biden work quietly in the background.

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