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There are a lot of news articles about "back to the office", but they recirculate the same bad ideas. Let's provide some new ideas for the media to circulate. It may also have the effect of making the office less terrible.

I would like my work computer to do Windows updates lightning quick in the office. It currently takes weeks, in or out of the office. Stopping in for a day makes no difference, so there is no point. Now, if there was a point, I would go in.

What would get you in the office?

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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went back to the office on my own. A long time ago. It should be noted that I like my bosses, peers, and my job in general (I mean it’s called work, not fun - but it isn’t miserable)

  1. ability to build better relationships with everyone - it’s too easy to sling shit over email. Whole different experience actually talking to somebody - especially when one of you needs something difficult.
  2. separation between work and home - I don’t like home feeling like the workplace.
  3. remote work people are heading towards a future of being Bangalore’d. If your job is currently being split up into the part that needs to be local and a remote part - you’re only a few years away from watching someone overseas do it for 1/10th the cost. Be needed in person people!

I thought I’d love remote work, but I hated it.

[–] wreel@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

With regard to point 1 I've personally found that my work relationships have not been impacted by remote work. I still can have honest and hard conversations when needed but also able to just shoot the shit and connect with people all over the globe. I have friends in Spain, Brazil, Scotland and Italy now. However I think there's a real component of playing politics that's lost when there is no office to roam around in and jump people but in my eyes that's a good thing. And honestly that's what really bothers middle management. They've built up a career playing that game of in person politics but once they had to survive in a remote working world where ad-hoc discussions get thrown out of the window they find their usual toolbox is empty. And it drives them crazy.

I've been hearing number 3 for about 20 years. It never works out that way and if they could split the job between cheap overseas contractors and limited on site employees then most businesses would have already done so. International hiring is a good thing and great talent can be found but it's usually not the "savings" people expect it to be because the market will always adjust to demand.

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Agree with point 2. My dad is WFH 2 days a week and my mom is WFH 4 days a week. Both regularly complain about having to convert part of the living space into the workspace, and the challenges that come with having those spaces always visible and always available.