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I watched Fury Road and Furiosa back to back and I noticed something interesting. (Spoilers inside, obviously.) (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/movies@lemmy.world

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It seems to me that George Miller agrees with the fan belief that the Mad Max films are a series of tales rather than a chronology or anything like that, because there are some huge discontinuities, and I am fairly sure that is intentional. You may dispute this, but you will have to come up with some convoluted explanations for at least some of these points:

Some of the big ones:

“Shiny” and “chrome” are never said once in Furiosa.
One of Immortan Joe’s sons is different in each film, although Rictus is in both. There is no mention of a third brother in either film.
There is a history woman in Fury Road and not a history man
In Fury Road, the false-nosed man is the head of Gastown and not very interested in helping Immortan Joe even though he does it out of fealty.
In Fury Road, the titular road is implied to be the road to The Green Place. In Furiosa, it’s the road from The Citadel to Gastown.
In Fury Road, Max had clearly never seen The Citadel before until he ran out of the cave and saw where he was. In Furiosa, he is within view of it in his Interceptor.
There’s no suggestion that Gastown and The Bullet Farm had their own horde of drivers in Fury Road.
Furiosa is told by her mother in Furiosa to use the stars to get back to The Green Place, but in Fury Road, she just goes east. And during the day.
In Furiosa, the Warboys worship at the pile of steering wheels. In Fury Road, they take the wheels for their cars one by one and choosing which wheel is a ritual thing.

The biggest one, though, is that Furiosa ends where Fury Road begins, at least that’s what the film seems to show, but Gastown and The Bullet Farm are rebuilt and restaffed enough that runs are possible again, and Immortan Joe’s army is much bigger and more powerful.

I’m not complaining at all, I think it’s fascinating. The idea of a film universe as folklore rather than “fact.”

Incidentally, neither film ever explains why Furiosa has an American accent.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The discontinuity is good, although the major close ties between the movies mean that I hope we never see another movie where the Citadel plays a major role. For as much discontinuity as there was, there was also so much close connection that I don't want more material to flesh it out, especially if it starts getting out of George Miller's hands because I don't trust other writers not to make things more literally and cinematic universe style.

For the folk tale aspect, the ending of Furisoa heavily leans into it with a sort of chose your own adventure ending, and the "true" ending being so absolutely insane that it has to be a folk tale.

I do wish the beginning of Furisoa had played up unreliability of the details regarding the green place, only because what we saw on screen was a bit preposterous if taken totally literally, and would have gone down easier with some vasoline on the storytelling lens.