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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

free stuff people keep voting for

Don't leave us hanging. Where is all this free stuff?

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately no "SWAG" type stuff. If you're in the US, the majority is spent on entitlements, servicing debt, and the defense budget. In that order.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

entitlements, servicing debt, and the defense budget

Definitely depends on how you count.

Discretionary Defense spending totals over $800B in 2023, but doesn't include a number of additional costs. Total outlays go to over $1T when you add up what Congress authorized plus what Biden requested for weapons R&D, international aid (notably to Ukraine and Israel as well as Pacific Rim territories), and upgrades to our nuclear arsenal by way of the Department of Energy.

That puts the defense budget above Medicare, but below Social Security. It also dwarfs the $650B we're spending on outstanding interest (remarkably low considering the gross debt). But we've seen people stop talking about SS and Medicare as distinct entities, instead mashing them together to make the total look bigger. I've also seen folks carving the Tricare/VA costs off the overall Pentagon budget and start talking about it like another entitlement. So... shrug

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Who said the free stuff is for you? You get roads, public schools, parks, and libraries. As for the rest, see for yourself:

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You get roads, public schools, parks, and libraries.

But I pay for all of that with property, gas, and sales taxes. None of it is free.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today -4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's free for the people who don't pay taxes.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Who doesn't pay sales taxes? Who doesn't eat property taxes, either directly or indirectly? Who doesn't eat gas taxes?