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An idling gas engine may be annoyingly loud, but that's the price you pay for having WAY less torque available at a standstill.

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[–] Persen@lemmy.world 31 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (62 children)

Gas engines have decent range. Gas engines are cheaper (as the electric engine prices are artificially inflated, just look at Chinese prices), with gas engines you can listen to the sound of the engine to diagnose problems before they occur, batteries don't degrade (you still have car batteries, but when they degrade, you can still drive a car for as long as with the new battery. You can refuel it in a couple of seconds. Anyone can make one sided arguments. There isn't a best thing for everything.

[–] sour@feddit.de 15 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Your argument is with electric cars vs ice cars. xkcd likely specifically was talking about engines just so all the range arguments don't work. It's just engine vs engine and there electric is far superior.

[–] lescher@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That's like saying a sword is a better weapon than a gun because the sword can bei used for cutting, hitting und thrusting and also as a tool while the gun can only hit and shoot while needing additional components to function that quickly run out while being more complex to build. You cant just ignore the context to make your argument. He's clearly talking about cars here.

[–] sour@feddit.de 9 points 3 months ago

I didn't remove context, you added context.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, could easily be talking about lawn mowers, which also have gas and electric and arguable more priority for torque generation.

[–] Persen@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Well for the lawn mowers, I think it doesn't matter that much what specs you choose. You don't need to be comfortable using it if you don't mow the lawn every day, but it's still better if you choose a better, longer lasting product.

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Specs absolutely matter. Incline of your lawn, outdoor outlet location, type of grass you have growing. I'd never recommend a plug in electric lawn mower to someone who needs to mow six acres of hills.

That said, electric mowers by and large are better for most consumers.

[–] Persen@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Oh well, I just assumed it was about cars for some reason.

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In speed and torque, yes, but not in sound and tactile feeling.

[–] sour@feddit.de 1 points 3 months ago

Sound depends on whether you value low noise. And not sure about tactile feeling, but ngl, the feeling of drivint an ICE car is awful after switching to EVs. The instant acceleration and responsiveness is just great.

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