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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If all content (all content) was paid for by tax dollars, it would not only be ad free, but there wouldn't be huge companies standing in-between the artist and the consumer as far as getting the artists paid. And it wouldn't cost that much. Like less than what you pay for having all streaming services simultaneously.

https://youtu.be/PJSTFzhs1O4

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But imagine the controversy a government would receive broadcasting various kinds of content. People deride the BBC as a mouthpiece of whichever party is in power despite immense work making it as impartial as possible

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Some years ago the BBC itself ordered a study by Nottingham University which did show that the BBC consistently was pro-whatever-party-was-in-Government, so not being pro a specific party but switching from one of the parties of the power duopoly in Britain to the other as they alternated in Government (funnilly enough giving very little airtime to the smaller leftwing-ecologist party and tons of airtime to smaller far-right parties like UKIP).

However that's about the News, not the rest.

Mind you the BBC also does in it's contents invariably beautify the view about certain slices of British Society and British History but that's the same as the 100% private content producers in the US also do, so it doesn't seem to be an explicitly "Public TV" thing.

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m unfortunately not very familiar with the BBC other than Top Gear and some of their fabulous documentaries. Thank you for the insight!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Well, I lived in the UK for over a decade, having immigrated there from Portugal via The Netherlands, and was quite shocked after having been there long enough to start paying attention to Politics and Society as a whole, that my image of it that was formed when I was a kid in Portugal in the 80s was very different from the reality I found on the ground in the late 00s and beyond.

There is a huge "keeping up with appearences" strain in (mainly English, worse the higher the social class) British Society that would be seen as hypocrisy in, for example a place like The Netherlands, and that has a huge impact on the BBC because it's always controlled (both via seats in its Board and those chosen as Editors) by people who come from the english upper classes, so you end up with the kind of things that are important in "Opinion Forming" of the Public (i.e. the News, politically relevant documentaries and such) being carefully managed to produce the "right opinion" ("rightness" being defined by that slice of English society that dominate the BBC's Board and Editors, so for example they're unabashedly pro-Monarchy).

Also the UK has Censorship, in the form of what's called a D-Notice, where the Government can stop the publishing of certain stories if deemed "against the national interest", plus things like Libel Legislation are extremelly broad and seem designed to stop whistleblowing, to the point that for example some years ago an Ukranian Oligarch sued in the UK an Ukranian newssite which had denounced actions of his in Ukraine, and the case was accepted by the British courts because "the website could be accessed from Britain".

The result is that the creative and apolitical programs from the BBC are often top-notch whilst the rest is Propaganda, elegantly done and not at all in-your-face (mainly through half-throughts, false dichotomies, uneven selection of speakers for different sides and selective picking of things to report) but still done to "make opinion" not merelly "inform".

Mind you, this is not just the BBC, though it does manage to be worse in this than the other TV channels in the UK.

Unsurprisingly the British Press is the Press least trusted by the locals in Europe.

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Really interesting information! It’s a shame that they’re not as trusted as I thought in Europe, I revere their short-wave long range news broadcast worldwide. It’s an absolute tragedy Associated Press doesn’t do the same

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think having all art that can find an audience funded this way would help this issue more than hurt it.

[–] SirShanova@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And then we get into the weeds of how do we decide who gets grants? I’m a fairly enthusiastic watcher of Linus Tech Tips, and he discusses that the entertainment tax grants the Canadian Government gives out are so complex that only the largest companies (the ones who do not need the grants) can hire people to navigate the bureaucracy for the tax breaks. Is choosing artists going to be an America’s Got Talent competition? A random draw? What source do we get viewer/listener numbers from?

I would love to resume the federal government’s artist programs like under the New Deal, but the reality is that our culture is more niche and divided than ever. Rather than swing and jazz being unquestionably dominant for music in the days of yore, now we’d have to check and verify every SoundCloud rapper, YouTube artist, and pop-megastar.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Some of your questions are covered in the video I linked. Others are kind of indirectly answered.

[–] Derproid@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Lol. Lmao even. Have you never heard what happens to government funded research papers?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video

[–] whats_a_refoogee@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ, if my tax dollars were going to the absolute garbage content that's being currently produced I would personally run for office to repeal that legislation.

And if the quality is so low when billions are on the line, I am terrified of what we would get when it's government funded. Even now, you don't need to look far to see how poorly our taxes are spent. Look into how construction companies take advantage of government contacts.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Then why aren't you running?

Sounds like you oppose PBS? no? Or the taxes the FCC pays to media corps that come out of your paycheck?

When can I expect you to announce you candidacy?

Go run, big boy. See how many people agree with your ideology. I dare ya.