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Okay. Let's calm down. You can make your argument without calling it emotional words like 'bullshit'. Talking emotionally makes others less likely to listen to your point. Funnily enough it also makes you appear less mentally mature ๐
Just because it's a new idea doesn't mean it's wrong.
I'd also wager that the 'point of maturity ' is a little high in the US, but not that all teenagers are mature enough to be called 'adults'.
Do people really believe that 20 year olds are children and no one ever in the entire history of the world ever noticed this, and the only people who ever got this right are in the USA in the last 20 years?
That is just astoundingly ridiculous.
Personally, I think most 20 year olds are mature enough to be called adults.
I don't think a 13 year old is.
I agree with most of Europe that around 18 is a sufficient age.
So for me, 18 is the point where people are matute enough on average.
Your first comment suggests you think as soon as a person hits puberty they're mature enough to be called adults. I'm not sure at this point if this is what you meant.
Your subjective opinions on who is "mature" are irrelevant.
Okay, let's say it is. So we can now consider all teenagers as adults. Great.
Nobody is going to say a 13 year old is mature enough to do most of the things we let 25 year olds do.
So whatever word you want to put to it. 'adult' 'mature' 'flimbobblewob', the point still stands that a 13 year old is different to a 25 year old.
13 year olds are also different from 19 year olds
and 13 year olds are different from 7 year olds
I have seen people literally argue that a romantic relationship MUST be abusive because one of the lovers is only 19 and therefore "still a teen" ... the dogma that says teens are children is absolutely false and it is damaging the hell out of young people.
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If a child is raised by wolves do they ever become "mature"?
"maturity" is purely subjective. there is no way to measure it. what is perceived as mature varies a lot from culture to culture.
Nature makes us adults through a process called puberty. Society cannot change that. It is biological reality.