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Tesla CEO Elon Musk could leave if $56 billion pay package not approved, shareholders warned
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Musk leaving would probably help Tesla's share price
Probably help them make cars too.
Imagine how many model 3’s they could have made if they didn’t set up a whole new production facility for a 3 year olds drawing of a truck.
The Cybertruck is a fail on so many levels that I wonder why anyone wants one. It's not a good EV, it's not a good truck, falls short on price & range, is prone to corrosion, looks stupid, is totally impractical, and lethal to pedestrians & cyclists. The thing violates so many EU regulations that it will NEVER be on sale there and anywhere else that doesn't like murder machines.
It’s the emperors new clothes.
Remember, it was supposed to have 500 miles of range, accelerate as faster or faster than a Porsche 911, and have “Thermonuclear explosion proof glass” for some reason.
1/3 of those things sound useful as a truck. Having a long range while unloaded means it could have been decent for most weekend warrior/vacation hauling and towing jobs. But its actual range is closer to 300 miles, because the thing is absurdly heavy.
All the Elon fans insist that it’s the best vehicle they’ve ever driven, despite it having no clear design goal, and having a huge number of personal safety issues for the driver, up to and including the throttle getting jammed down due to cheap glue.
I haven’t seen one yet, but man do I wish I could, because I want to understand why some people are so in love with it. Unfortunately, I live in the rust belt, so I doubt I’ll see one of these rolling piles of rust for a very long time, as our climate will simply dissolve $100k dollar vehicle from under the owner.
It looks like a large appliance in real life, like an industrial regrigerator or rooftop air conditioner left on the side of the road.
I know this. And it's why i wanted one. Thankfully the problems have allowed me to not want one. But if someone can fix these problems i will then want one.
I can't explain it i just like how horrible they are
"I want vehicle geometry that decreases efficiency while guaranteeing any pedestrian I hit dies"
It's a terrible shape for a consumer vehicle.
Not a single person in the entire history of vehicles has ever bought a truck and said man this vehicles geometry is so efficient what a good purchase ive made.
And where are you getting this about instant death shapes?
Look ive probably driven more kms than you in the last decade. Maybe not but i certainly am in the bracket or 2 below long haul drivers. In my professional career as well as my personal vehicle history ive never hit a pedestrian, but even if i did there are vehicles significantly worse than this one that have been sold for decades.
Its an interesting vehicle. Its just unlike anything else that is a consumer vehicle today.
I agree its ugly. It is a great excecution of an idea. Ive been a fan of sci fi and cyberpunk for 30+ years and this vehicle is exactly that. Its a vehicle i never thought anyone would ever make and its also and electric vehicle. That last bit alone is significantly important.
Many vehicles have problems. This vehicle deserves the failure it has earned.
Its a vehicle that should have beem almost impossible for its build and production to be worse than its curb appeal. yet musk in his musky ways musked it up damned good.
Talk to a Countach owner. They are awful vehicles by lambo standards or even any half way decent performance vehicle. Yet they are also beloved. The DeLorean is hilariously similar to the cybertruck yet a single movie turned that heap into an absolute icon.
Are you incapable of believing that what you see is not the whole picture? That people can be attracted to something not because of what if fails at but how they feel about it?
Are you a robot that cant understand the world you see and know is but a mere insignificant mote in the depth that is the world of reality and human experience?
They're still worth a lot more than almost any other car manufacturer. Without Musk and his pie in the sky promises, what else is left to justify that?
Well theres 56 Billion dollars to invest into the company and make a better product. Fix the many issues with the company and get back building something people cant wait to get.
I dont think most people who wanted teslas really cared about self driving, that was just inventive and marketing. Its neat...if it worked without the problems, but i think ive said in an old post that tesla will be a much better company long after musk is out of the picture. I didnt expect it to happen now but ide be delighted if this company that like it or not is the one that kicked off the EV race would actually become a company forcing other manufacturers into a better world.sooner than they otherwise would do on their own.
EVs were inevitable is exactly what musk predicted was going to happen. He saw it as unavoidable and so he bought his way into tesla and spent a lot of time money(much more of other people than his own) and effort into building the Tesla brand
Maybe musk is just good at picking a horse, but i think its better for him to get out of the way of the real work of building the product and not just a brand.
I want Tesla to be so much more successful, and more importantly more respected, without musk than with him. That would be the best version of this brand
I do believe it'd result in a better company. I'm not convinced it'd result in a higher stock price.
Oh that's fair i don't really care about stock price. I can't invest in anything so it's just rich people fantasy football to me