For all your boycotting needs. I'm sure there's some mods caught in lemmy.ml's top 10 that are perfectly upstanding and reasonable people, my condolences for the cross-fire.

!memes@lemmy.world and !memes@sopuli.xyz. Or of course communities that rule.
!asklemmy@lemmy.world
!linux@programming.dev. Quite small, plenty of more specific ones available. Also linux is inescapable on lemmy anyway :)
!programmer_humor@programming.dev
!world@lemmy.world
!privacy@lemmy.world and maybe !privacyguides@lemmy.one, lemmy.one itself seems to be up in the air. !fedigrow@lemm.ee says !privacy@lemmy.ca. They really seem to be hiding even from another, those tinfoil hats :)
!technology@lemmy.world
Seems like !comicstrips@lemmy.world and !comicbooks@lemmy.world, various smaller comic-specifc communities as well as !eurographicnovels@lemm.ee
!opensource@programming.dev
!fuckcars@lemmy.world

(Out of the loop? Here's a thread on lemmy.ml mods and their questionable behaviour)

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[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

to me it was more the straw that broke the camel's back. every rude and unreasonable interaction i have in here is with someone from .ml. it's not even about their politics or beliefs, they're just not pleasant to have around.

the second you try to engage them they throw the real arguments out for pedantry about definitions and using that to call people dumb instead of actually having meaningful discussion about ideas. they're the worst kind of "it's not my job to explain it to you, Google it" people too. like, i get the mindset, but it's just not going to change anyone's heart or mind. it's not how you actually win an argument.

every person on Lemmy.ml argues like an annoying 14 year old atheist that just discovered Internet arguments and the think whole Internet is Christian. they're just shitty to be around and basically never add anything meaningful to a discussion other than "you're wrong and dumb"

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

My experience has similarities and differences - I don't find .ml users as a whole to be shitty, but if there's a shitty user, chances are pretty good that they're from .ml rather than one of the smaller instances, World, or Kbin. And they're almost always evangelical in nature - as a former evangelical, I recognize the type. The preconception of ultimate and indisputable correctness - they're often willing to explain and honestly discuss their views, but not acknowledge any serious possible fault or flaw in them. The scriptures are holy, after all.

They swapped the opiate of the people for some synthetic Stalinist stuff.

[–] ExFed@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

argues like an annoying 14 year old atheist that just discovered Internet arguments and the think whole Internet is Christian

Brilliant. I'm saving this imagery for later.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Fair enough, is definitely not my experience and I have an account on .ml for about 1 year.

I could argue that I see more trolls on lemmy.world than any other instance, but that obvious: is the larger instance but probably the ratio troll/normal people is more or less the same than any other instance.

they’re the worst kind of “it’s not my job to explain it to you, Google it” people too.

That's a behaviour that I do not see ever on the communities that I participate(basically technology and linux)

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I wonder if where you have your account affects how you notice where the trolls are from? Like I don't notice trolls coming from .world much because I just see a username, where a troll from .ml is username@lemmy.ml.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

That makes a lot of sense.

[–] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

I see more trolls on lemmy.world than any other instance

Maybe they see your ml account and hate you by association because of abuse they've suffered from other ml accounts

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

yeah, I'll agree. the tech communities in there are not like that. it's the political ones.

an example: they'll say something off the wall about the Ukraine war and American support for it, you'll reply with something that mentions the Americans that support and don't support it among many other things, they'll dog pile you for using the word "liberal" with the common American definition because apparently linguistic drift is illegal. theynever get off the subject and then never actually tell you their definition and how it differs.

that's every political discussion with anyone from .ml involved. if it was just their own communities it would be fine, but it's that they go out and do that with every community that doesn't defederate.

imagine it this way; what if "the Donald" had broken off Reddit later and made one of the largest lemmy instances. they were perfectly cordial when you were in their funny dog pictures community, but they constantly act like trump supporters in every political thread.
obviously we'd all defederate with them. very few world even question that at this point.

that's what this is. they're just loud, and extreme, and annoying on this one subject. we'd rather not see the Linux main community hold us captive against excising the problem.