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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it - Gothamist (gothamist.com)

submitted 3 months ago by 1984@lemmy.today to c/technology@lemmy.world

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This is a very entertaining and educational article, giving insights into the methods used by thiefs to try and get access to your phone data.

I don't like Apple but it's great that their security is so good when it comes to this.

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[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nothing is secure about a system designed so poorly you have to give out your password. That should never be needed.

You didn’t have to give out your password, in fact you never should. If the machine remains locked, that’s not your problem. Your IT department should have created an admin account on the machine for IT before handing it over to you to avoid this scenario. The IT departments incompetence is not your problem.

If you wanted to unlock it as a courtesy, then they should have offered to send the laptop to you so you could unlock it. You never ever give anyone your password, and IT should know better than to ask for it.

If someone is holding a family member at gunpoint and threatening to kill them if you don’t give up your password; you do NOT give up your password. If an evil mastermind is about to destroy the world, and it can only be saved by you telling your password to another person. You do NOT give your password. There is no valid reason to ever give your password to anyone.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

You missed the point entirely. Harassing me into signing into iCloud shouldn't mean I ever have to do anything inconvenient at all, regardless.

I wasn't presented with a dialogue that said "login to establish device ownership". Instead it was "login to iCloud now" dozens and dozens of times. I have never once used iCloud nor will I ever. That part alone was indefensible. But then locking the device to that account is plain stupid and reckless. There are plenty of scenarios where this fucks people worse than having to choose from a few shitty options

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wasn't presented with a dialogue that said "login to establish device ownership".

There is an entire screen in the initial setup that explains that the machine is added to your Find My and what that means. You probably just clicked ‘continue’ without reading.

Also, you don’t have to do anything inconvenient. It’s not your laptop so not your problem. The owner can have activation lock removed if they provide proof of ownership to Apple.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You really earn your "apple simp" tag. You know apple doesn't give a fuck about you, actually.

And I really don't care about your invalidations of what happened to me. If by some chance I did make some other mistake besides using my personal apple account, it's irrelevant. I do not think it should be possible to accidentally opt in to this bullshit. It is a shitty feature to force on every user. And it shouldn't be possible for an employee to render thousands of dollars worth of company hardware useless trash ready for the landfill. It shouldn't be possible intentionally, let alone by accident. If you removed the apple schlong from you mouth for a second you might see my point but you won't.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And it shouldn't be possible for an employee to render thousands of dollars worth of company hardware useless trash ready for the landfill.

And it isn’t. Like I said before: Apple will remove the activation lock for the owner of the device. Just provide them proof of purchase.

You can request the unlock here

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ok so if I owned this machine legally but didn't have such proof, I'm sure you'd find a way to call me a fucking idiot for that too right? It would serve me right and apple would be blameless

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you would be an idiot for buying a machine worth thousands of euros and not keeping the invoice. That’s completely unrelated to activation lock.

It you’re a business then it’s double stupid not to keep invoices.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Surprise! Apple simp strikes again!

Buying something legally isn't enough. Apple owns the fucking thing because: security and simps say so

Nevermind that there are plenty of ways you could get into this scenario and even if it only happened once ever, Apple's practice is bullshit, because: security and simps

I truly hope all this gargling some day leads you to accepting something even worse from these pieces of shit and and then it fucks you

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dude, you’re an idiot.