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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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I keep seeing this instance is overrun with tankies so hey, lets do an informal survey like I've seen on hexbear

respond with YES or NO in the first line of your comment and i'll tally everything in a couple of days, lets say I'll try and collect everything on the sunday the 9th (10+gmt sorry)

not sure thisll work, be nice, have fun

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[–] Filibuster_Rhymes@lemm.ee 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

When the current government is not doing a very good job at maximizing the happiness of its citizens, it's a natural reaction to look for answers from a different type of government. America has some enormous problems with capitalism as it currently operates, and communism offers solutions to many of those problems. The issue is the top-down power structure. Democracy keeps the most power in the hands of the general population, and i will always oppose giving that up. Beyond that, I'm open to any solutions for modern problems, public or private.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really recommend asking this question on lemmygrad or hexbear, bc you'll get really good in-depth answers about the nature and differences between what's labelled as "democracy" in capitalist countries, vs the reality of whether citizens of a capitalist dictatorship have anything resembling democracy.

[–] Filibuster_Rhymes@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

American democracy definitely needs to be improved (ranked 36 in the world), but do you think I have less of a voice in the election process than I would under communism?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Ask these questions over on lemmygrad or hexbear, you'll get good answers.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you oppose top-down structures, then why do you support Capitalism over Communism?

[–] Filibuster_Rhymes@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I support democracy and oppose authoritarianism. Capitalism needs better regulations today, but I don't believe that the government controlling all business would lead to anything besides more authoritarianism.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why? Capitalism can't be democratic.

[–] Filibuster_Rhymes@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No it can't because it's not a form of government, it's just an economic system. Communism is both a type of government and an economic system. That means concentrated power.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Capitalism has liberal democracy.

Are you saying that because Workers have absolutely no economic control in Capitalism, it's more democratic than when they do? Are you genuinely making that argument?