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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

What the fuck are you talking about this is at the top of /all/ and it's about a socialist country, of course socialists are here.

Feel free to point to the "brigade" organisation that exists, it's a figment of your imagination. Nobody is brigading anything by simply using the fucking site. Are you brigading by being here too then?

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (1 children)

brigading is when I get ratioed, and the more ratioed I am the more brigading it is

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

I've got 3 fucking years of practice posting nonsensical shit in megathreads and I'm just now starting to feel the power this has in threads like this one.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Keep pretending China is socialist.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Keep pretending it isn't, lib.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You're the only liberal here for kissing a capitalist nation's ass.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hey, coward, explain how you can simultaneously believe that the Donbas is independent and that when Russian troops entered their territory at their request that constituted an invasion.

Explain or admit that you don't consistently believe in self determination.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When did I say I'm against Russian troops entering Donbas territory? I made it very clear I'm against Russian troops entering anywhere BUT Donbas. Love how you guys claim to be anti-war until the millisecond a non-western nation is the one committing war crime atrocities and mass murdering civilians.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I wouldn't even much of a problem if they just invaded Donbas

How could they possibly invade the Donbas at all when they were invited?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Semantics. I didn't mean "invade," that was just the word that came in my head. You know damn well what I meant.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It came into your head for a reason, liar. I guess going forward, nobody should assume that you mean what you say.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You're just gonna ignore the fact I said and have been saying I supported it huh? Fucking Russia lovers with no understanding of nuance

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if person.beliefs != NatoPropaganda:

person.status = RussiaLover

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Erm...

if person.beliefs != RussianPropaganda:

person.status = NATOLover

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Im actually surprised that you could read the runes, interesting.

However I never said that you loved NATO lmao you just uncritically consume *and parrot their propaganda about Russia being le big evil in this situation.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Would you support America invading and drone striking the Middle East because separatists in a single province were being oppressed by their native government and wanted US help? How is this any different? Would you support Kazakhstan invading all of China for oppressing Uyghurs in Xinjiang who wanted to break away (which I know you love to deny but is very much a reality even if exaggerated by MSM)?

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So lemmy get this straight, NATO going across a few oceans and continents to destroy a country of brown people in another white supremacist crusade for resources, as they do, is the same as...

A country filled with a certain ethnic group wanting to invade a region on their doorstep because NATO is fortifying it as a strongpoint to destroy it, and a bunch of Nazis are slaughtering civilians of the said same ethnic group within the said region?

Would you support Kazakhstan invading all of China for oppressing Uyghurs in Xinjiang

So basically exaggerated bullshit reports from MSM and Adrian Zenz of people being put in vocational schools is the same as Azov mass murdering innocent civilians?

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting that the majority of Uyghurs support ETIM. Furthermore, ARE you stating that you personally support the self determination of the ETIM movement?

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have no idea and it is obviously a hypothetical if they did.

[–] Leper_Messiah@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago

I have no idea

Yeah that's abundantly clear

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

If I said that I supported people's rights to sell marijuana and I didn't even think they should get much jail time for it, people would rightly point out that I was lying about my support.

You stated that you supported self determination for people in the Donbas, and I didn't ignore it at all, I'm saying that even within the same post you proved that you actually didn't when you referred to their allies entering their territory as an invasion.

Again, I'm not ignoring anything, I just think you're a liar and that you only started pretending to support the Donbas's self determination because doing otherwise would undermine the point you were trying to make about Taiwan.

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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

bro even wikipedia acknowledges china is socialist lmao

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Socialist Market Economy is a socialist mode of production. :bean:

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, and the sky is green too.

Adding the word "socialist" in front of "market economy" doesn't make it any less capitalist. I'm done with this.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

nuh uh because it means that the CPC has final say over shit with regards to the economy and governance instead of just leaving things up to the market like a true capitalist country

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's called state capitalism wise guy.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

State capitalism is when you execute billionaires and enact compulsory planning for key parts of the nation's development such as health and infrastructure.

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

No but state capitalism is when the majority of billionaires are allowed to exist in the first place dumbass. Tight regulations don't make you socialist. And putting money into health and infrastructure is possible under capitalism LMFAO

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

majority of billionaires are allowed to exist in the first place dumbass

Socialism is a transitory stage between capitalism and communism where there is ongoing class warfare between the bourgeoisie and the proletariat my dude. In China, the state is on the side of the proletariat, not the bourgeois.

And putting money into health and infrastructure is possible under capitalism

And yet China is the only major power where the state has a tight grip on both... Interesting!

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

In China, the state is on the side of the proletariat, not the bourgeois

THEN BAN BILLIONAIRES AND STOP FOLLOWING DENG'S CAPITALISM JFC. Not that hard if they were actually socialist and aiming for communism.

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Not that hard if they were actually socialist

So why haven't you done it yet?

[–] Zodiark@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

wojak-nooo : NOOOO!!! WHY HAVENT YOU PRESSED THE COMMUNISM BUTTON XI?! NOOO!!!

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

“[Capitalists] act as if they are being chased by a bear,” wrote Zhang Lin, a Beijing political commentator, in response to these comments. “They are powerless to control the bear, so they are competing to outrun each other to escape the animal.”

og-hex-bear

[–] CatholicSocialist@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe say something of your own instead of linking a wall text. Does it look like I wanna read 5 pages of CCP propaganda?

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol 5 pages 😂🫴📖

"Red Sails is a website run by Roderic Day in collaboration with Nia Frome, Sobrina de Alguien, and several other comrades."

Inb4 "muh CCP paid shills!!!!"

That would be going into the realm of conspiracy theories lmao

[–] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

All of the billionaires allowed to exist under your socialist project, so you're not really in a position to judge.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cool then let’s have the CPC run the USA, I’m sure you’re okay with that since China is actually capitalist, right? It should totally be the same here if the CPC takes control, right? Right?

[–] TimmytheDragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The kingdom of your God is not socialist, it is a monarchy.

[–] TimmytheDragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Keep pretending Catholicism has anything to do with socialism.