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Alls I can say is, I wear a uniform at work for the sake of a uniform, consistent representation of my department. Official communications and the signature line of my email is the same thing. I am at a fire department, it is very paramilitary and your individualism is beat out of you, you are just a cog in a machine, that is all. Anything else is viewed as a waste of taxpayers $$. Any individual freedom gets people hurt, or in this case just angers some rednecks that view it as a political statement.... Either way, those rednecks are taxpayers too, so just remain neutral and use the predetermined signature line. If it is a true problem and not someone.. trying to make a political statement, and it's really important that the building owner of the bar you just inspected and are sending the inspection report to REALLY needs to know that you are they/them, and it is really messing up your mental health if they just assume you are another employee at the fire department, then that is a discussion for someone more important than me.
My personal view is in that and most situations, it doesn't make sense that it weighs on someone that much. It's not on par with someone that needs extra time to use the bathroom because of a handicap. Honestly, that comparison is absurd and offensive in itself. There is no reason everyone needs to know your pronouns. Just like they don't need to know if I am a man or a woman. I am just a person, doing my job.
Either way, my situation is irrelevant. These people work at a school, a very different culture, and these changes were made immediately after they made some stupid comments in the stupidest way.
What about people named Ashley. Or Courtney. Or Kelly. Or Sam. Etc.
Plenty of other commenters here who are similarly ambivalent to pronouns have provided reasons that they can understand their practicality if nothing else.
Sure, for a lot of people being misgendered is nothing but a minor inconvenience. For someone who is used to being intentionally misgendered out of spite, such a small change makes a big difference.
If being misgendered in emails was the only problem trans and non-binary people faced in the world, then maybe saying people should get over it is fine. That isn't the case. This is just one of a million things someone in that situation might experience each day that acts as a barrier to participating in society and it is such an easy one to change. In fact, the situation in question was already working fine. Effort was put in, in response to some misguided outrage, to actively prevent the simple solution.
I understand your position of apathy, and maybe if the cost of addressing this particular issue was high, it would make sense to weigh up the solution, but the cost of this is nil so why not facilitate an easier world for all people.
Ironically enough, I worked with an old, salty captain for the better part of a decade who's name was Kelly. Never had his pronoun in his email signature that I recall. He is long retired now. And that is a stupid anecdotal argument, just surprisingly relevant and felt obligated to throw it out there.
I honestly agree, it is a simple thing to change if you can control how everyone thinks. Unfortunately, when you work in government, what people think is expensive. Weighing the chances of a successful or even unsuccessful lawsuit and poor employee morale vs pissing off constituents that vote on the next ballot measure to fund your department or for the council member that oversees your department is a decision that usually leads to left handed solutions like "In completely unrelated news, please use this signature line template for the sake of uniformity"
Given the fact that this was a hot topic already, I am sure lawyers or at least HR was involved in their decision and whatever backlash comes they probably already anticipated it.
Very relevant anecdote! There are definitely a lot of different attitudes to names and pronouns outside the context of gender identity. I personally don't really mind when people get my name wrong, I've got a common name spelt a little differently. On the flip side I've worked with "Matt"'s that are very serious about not being called "Mat", and others still who will refuse to respond if you shorten their full name.
That's a good point. Honestly, given other headlines I've seen and also things I've experienced in my own working life it wouldn't surprise me if HR or legal wasn't involved (or were steam rolled by a signature happy leader surrounded by too many yes-men). In saying that, I'd think it's more likely that they were.
This comment will serve as my springboard to go and find my favourite, gender neutral word for "yes-man".
I am pretty sure sycophant is gender neutral.
There it is!
They're not apathetic, they're having drawn out arguments about it online. That ain't apathy.
They just think if they couch it that way, people won't immediately see them for what they really are.
Inside they are a deeply insecure person. To the point where they can't even be completely honest with themselves about their own garbage beliefs. Sad.
I don't know if you're interpreting the situation the same as I am. From my perspective, the other commenter and I are having a pretty genuine discussion from two different points of view about the issue. Being ambivalent or apathetic about the inclusion of pronouns in the email signatures does not preclude someone from joining into the conversation, and it also doesn't preclude someone from having a strong opinion about the surrounding context.
They aren't debating whether or not people should be allowed to use any particular pronouns, just stating a pretty valid opinion that it shouldn't be all that important and in their lived experience it hasn't been. For what it's worth, I actually agree with that stance in a certain sense. I don't think we as a society should be placing any stock into gender or sex or sexuality as something that needs to be declared. However, while we do, and while we still have people ostracising and attacking others for being true to themselves, these are issues that need to be tackled. Maybe one day everyone will be on the same page and we can do away with the social construct of gender all together, and maybe we won't.
I really don't see anything in their comments that indicates they are secretly hateful. I especially don't see enough to presume anything about them as an individual.