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California city has agreed to pay $900,000 to a man who was subjected to a 17-hour police interrogation in which officers pressured him to falsely confess to murdering his father, who was alive.

During the 2018 interrogation of Thomas Perez Jr by police in Fontana, a city east of Los Angeles, officers suggested they would have Perez’s dog euthanized as a result of his actions, according to a complaint and footage of the encounter. A judge said the questioning appeared to be “unconstitutional psychological torture”, and the city agreed to settle Perez’s lawsuit for $898,000, his lawyer announced this week.

The extraordinary case of a coerced false confession has sparked widespread outrage, with footage showing Perez in extreme emotional and physical distress, including as officers brought his dog in and said the animal would need to be put down due to “depression” from witnessing a murder that had not actually occurred.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fun fact: The Supreme Court ruled in 1969 that cops do have the right to lie to you.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frazier_v._Cupp

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The police in the UK lied to me when I was 18 after a group fight on a night out.

Next thing I know we are up in Magistrates Court (max sentence 6 months in jail), they say nah fam this is too serious for us let’s send it up to Crown Court (no max sentence). In the end we end up with 300 hours of community service and a fine.

I’ll never trust the police again. Like sure if there is a serial killer about I’m gonna tell em what I know. If I’m under suspicion they get no comment all day long. They ain’t here to help us.

Fun side story. Which I preface by saying I’m a good boy now.

Me and my brother worked a call center and a scam going where we would get orders diverted to stores and go collect them and sell them. Like MacBooks and high end cameras etc.

Get fired without a word being said. Literally taken of the phone and walked out without a word.

6+ months later my Nana calls as she is house sitting at my mums whilst she on holiday, saying the police are here for me.

I speak on the phone and like yeah bro I don’t live there and I’m finna go to work right now, but I’ll hand myself into the station in a couple of days.

I arrange a solicitor and tell my brother to do the same. He’s a bit of a neek and just goes in alone and tells them everything and has a panic attack in the interview room.

But you see my brother has a couple mental issues on that he should have had an appropriate adult in the room so anything he said was inadmissible in court.

I rock up and hand myself in. Get shoved in a cell for 10 hours waiting for my solicitor. He comes asked how I did the scam and was like damn bro that’s sick. Anyway he’s like just say no comment to an everything. So I did and honestly it’s harder than it seems to do that when you like being polite.

So they knew for a fact we did this thing but had to go NFA (No further action) as they couldn’t prove it.

More fun. My brother is now a police officer himself which is wild.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

my brother has a couple mental issues on that he should have had an appropriate adult in the room

My brother is now a police officer himself which is wild.

Yah, that tracks.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m not sure if you’re doubting me or saying all the police have mental health issues.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for clarifying.

[–] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 months ago

All police have mental health issues.

The biggest bullies I know (USA) all became cops for the sole reason to keep bullying people.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

a group fight on a night out.

and a scam going where we would get orders diverted to stores

I’m a good boy now.

They ain’t here to help us.

Au contraire, they're here to protect us from cunts like you, and by and large, they do a good job considering how restricted they are. Yes, they bend the rules because the rules protect the scammers and the yobs too much

I'll get downvoted to fuck by yanks who think the police in other countries are fucked up militia like theirs, but in Europe, if you're not a cunt, the pigs are generally sound.

If you think the UK pigs are cunts, it's you that's the cunt

Not a pig btw

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The language in you is horrendous and I’m the yob.

You don’t know me. Are you out protesting for Palestine’s freedom every weekend? Protesting for the freedom of Sudan?

You never had a fight in your life. Particularly a fight again a person who jumped you with all their mates.

Sure I can’t defend the fraud against someone like you, but I would take take take from any corporation that does the same to its employees. I’m just bending the rules when doing scams like that.

Sure on the whole the police do a good job, but it doesn’t change the fact that they lie, racially profile people, and have murders and rapists in their ranks.

Kind of disrespect of you to call them pigs whilst defending their honour.

Look at our comments here and the language we have used and I would say you sound like the yob. Are you from the UK? As I would love to talk about this in person. (That’s not a threat of violence, I am genuinely interested in debating with people with different views).

Have you ever seen the police telling homeless people they can’t be homeless in that particular spot. Have you ever seen them refusing homeless people access to a bathroom because a minority of them have done drugs in a bathroom.

Just like the rest of society the police has good people and bad people.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sorry I thought that was a copypasta to start with 😂

As you were

My biggest take from this is you thinking that stealing from a company, who then pass on the costs of theft to the consumer, is "bending the rules", despite your crimes directly costing other consumers money

Also your assumptions about my beliefs and commitments are funny :)

I've been homeless myself and the majority of homeless I hung out with were utter dickheads who got themselves into that situation despite being offered help, and regularly antagonised the police with drunken behaviour

Go figure 😂

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Eh I couldn’t care less. Imma take what I can get. Can’t beat em join.

Thanks for your anecdotal evidence on homeless people. Been there too, well hostels and I found it to be the opposite.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imma take what I can get

"Even if I didn't earn it and even if it costs other less well-off people money because of my greed"

Did you beat them? Did you join them? Umm...no. You just created more problems for your peers.

I hate to use the phrase "circles back" but this circles back to my calling you a cunt, and I'm going to add the adjective "selfish" now 😂

Do corporations earn everything they have?

In the UK we looking like renationalising the water companies after they’ve essentially taken out any profits done no work to better services or infrastructure over the same time, so regardless of what you say I don’t give a shit bro.

I’m looking out for me and mine and yall can do the same.

May be a cunt mate but I’ll stand by what I do and own that shit.