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  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

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[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Is that right? To the average person, "Anti-Work" sounds like you're straight up against working, and unless you want to explain this to every single person individually, Fox News is going to keep having a field day misrepresenting your movement.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, "Work Reform" is much better. There's this weird trend of massively exaggerating a talking point, as the echo chamber seems incapable of thinking about any kind of optics or moderation

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

No work reform implies slightly different, which isn't the point. Any message must make you question the system.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

If you're marketing only to people with critical thinking skills you'll miss most of the voting population, but you do you.

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

"Anti-Work" does this better how? I'm genuinely confused

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Honestly that mod torpedoing the whole movement with a dumb interview and forcing the rebrand to work reform was probably one of the best things that could've happened.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Leftists really suck at marketing. Between that, antifa, and defunding the police, they really don't seem to know how to put a name to an idea that can't be misconstrued by an opponent with the maturity of a 5 year old (which, as luck would have it, is most opposition). I'd even argue BLM should be on that list.

Edit to add: global warming.

[–] chetradley@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We're really good at marketing exclusively to other leftists.

[–] timmymac@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Yes, the problem is you create a bubble and look stupid when you talk about anything outside of your bubble.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I believe it stems from Liberalism. Class consciousness is on the rise, but newly-class aware liberals aren't yet aquainted with Leftist theory. These ideas are popular among liberals that are becoming more familiar with leftism but are disconnected from the centuries of leftist progress.

[–] dfecht@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

The real problem is that big media (and therefore the prevailing narratives) are all controlled by the authoritarian corporate establishment.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Black lives matter is the least hyperbolic statement of that movement imaginable. That there was pushback even on that framing speaks more to the vile ess of its opponents than to a failure of marketing.

You might want to put it on your list but it's the opposite problem to your other examples if anything.