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I've been actively suggesting to those who ask my opinion that they should wait until 2025 and more models coming out with NACS charging integrated. Tesla may be a shitshow but you can't (yet) beat the charging infrastructure and adapters are never as good.
Also, the market is changing so rapidly that it's hard to justify most of the current offerings.
When he fired all 500 members of the Tesla supercharger team out of spite, a lot of those common plug agreements got real shakey. That team was responsible for integrating all the different manufacturers into the Tesla ecosystem, which is a much bigger lift then just a plug and some protocols.
Right now they dont even have anyone who knows who was installing what, where. Coordinating integration of a dozen billion dollar car brands into infastructure Tesla now doesnt even understand? We might be waiting till 2026 or never for that to happen.
Definitely a good time to consider a lease. You don’t want to be saddled with something outdated in a year or two. Leases are ok for precisely this situation where you want to get frequent new cars and not keep the old. While technology is changed by so fast, why not?
I did go ahead with a purchase but I considered it. I believe Tesla currently has a fantastic deal on A Model 3 lease so maybe that would have changed something but it’s too late for me
1 extra year will help to see how the batteries actual perform. After 10 years a Tesla's battery is under 80% of its original capacity, you're at the point of losing 1/4, 25%, of range. Not sure how many fail completely.
Not to mention many live in cold climates 1/3+ of the year, further impacting EV capacity. That's the killer for me currently. I can't not go to work for a week due to a cold snap.
If you can't get to work during a cold snap than either you are not charging your battery (that is your stupid fault), or live a lot farther from work than the average person and really need to move anyway.
Are you working 100+ miles away from home? On a 300 mile per useful charge battery, you temporarily lose about 20% usefulness to extreme cold, that still leaves you with 270 total range. So assuming you work 100 miles away, and do zero charging at work, you'd still have 170 miles of range to get back home in the cold.
If you can charge at work, this becomes even easier.
I've heard it's closer to 40% range loss. And yes, I do work that far away at times. Yes it's a separate issue how far I need to go, with no good solutions as my spouse works in the opposite direction.
So 20% capacity loss due to age and add another 40% loss ( idk if that's true, but I've read it in articles on Lemmy) is a huge issue for some.
Maybe at -40 degrees if you leave your car outside in the weather. Granted I park my EV in my garage and the coldest its been since I've owned it has been maybe -10 degrees F (-24 degrees C).
20% from age you'd only see after 12 or more years. If you're charging at home instead of DC fast charging it will likely be less degradation that that even.
Interesting, glad to hear it takes that long to decrease that much. I also don't have a garage to charge in either.
How much range did you lose at -10F? Where I live it isn't unusual to have stretches of -20 for a week at a time.
Thats the temporary 20% range reduction I referred to.
Do you have block heaters for your ICE vehicles because of that cold and parking outside?
Nah, it's not really an issue unless You're around -40 or have a diesel. Or if you have an older battery.
In Canada in places where it gets really cold, it used to be common to plug in your car for the block heater in your engine.