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[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 58 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music (and modern-day "classical" compositions are just rehashes).

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 months ago

I can get down with this.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Modern electronic music is the spiritual successor to classical music

I don't disagree, but can you explain your reasoning behind this?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 29 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Mostly because electronic music is made by a single composer and that the performance by the musicians itself is not as central to the composition.

And that Mozart would be probably making electronic music if he was born in this era.

[–] rishado@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

Upvoted because of bad/unpopular opinion, don't agree at all.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

performance by the musicians itself is not as central to the composition

Extremely debatable. With Renaissance and Romanticism came the cult of personality around celebrities. Lisztomania basically mirrored Beatlemania but for the virtuoso Hungarian pianist and composer, in the mid 1800s. Haydn and Paganini reportedly had a rather large female followings who weren’t really interested in their knack for musical harmony. IIRC, there are accounts of Mozart indulging in the lifestyle of a young royal composer with some renown.

I don’t know if he’d be making electronic music, honestly. Mozart broke so many of his contemporary musical rules, with all that has been invented since, I find it hard to believe he’d limit himself to it. Maybe progressive/experimental stuff ala Aphex Twin lol?

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The composers are usually not the musicians though when it comes to classical music, especially since most of the composers are already dead 🤪

But just imagine a Beatles cover band becoming more famous than the Beatles themselves. Something like is common when it comes to orchestras that play classical music though.

Sure, there is some personality cult around famous conductors and so on, but that is really more comparable to DJs that remix but do not compose their own electronic music.

[–] folkrav@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean, of course it’s gonna be interprets nowadays if the composers are dead, but composers were also often musicians or directors for their own music when they were alive 🤷‍♂️ It’s very difficult to play multiple instruments by yourself to hear your own composition when multitrack audio recording wasn’t a thing lol

A more accurate equivalence for the Beatles cover band would be if they were from year 2187 and all of The Beatles’ recordings were lost to time, which wouldn’t be particularly weird at this point, considering nobody alive in this year would remember what hearing The Beatles was like.

I guess if you’re talking about classical music as we live it now the comparison kind of makes sense, but “classical music” means so many things, spanning a couple centuries through multiple countries and waves - e.g. Bach, Mozart and Glass barely have anything to do with each other.

Mozart would probably go fucking nuts looking at modern notation software like Sibelius/MuseScore/Dorico tho lol

[–] space_of_eights@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I upvoted you, but you are not entirely right in my opinion.

Not all classical music is created equal. I am quite convinced that if J.S. Bach had lived today, he would make music like Squarepusher. However, somebody like Gustav Holst would probably be in some kind of doom metal or progressive metal.

[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Thoughts on Ummet Ozcan?