When people recognize they were wrong about something, as smugly satisfying as it may be it's not actually helpful to tell them that they should have been correct sooner.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it's about being smug. It's about pointing out the important fact that none of this is new except the scale. Divide by 100-1000 and this is just daily life in Palestine.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

So Israel’s been shutting down other newspapers before?

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No; they just arrest activists and journalists (sometimes but not always have their lackies at the PA do it). Actually shuttering a newspaper is a first AFAIK.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is that the line? Everything before was fine, but this is what caused them to lose your respect?

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago

Just give it a break for fuck’s sake jesus christ

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

edgy

[–] peg@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago

You respected Israelis a year ago? Please catch up.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And just like with Russia, my soul bleeds for the people who have nothing to do with this...

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

At least in Russia the elections were fake

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The Kung-Fu is strong

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

And who would that be? The exactly 1 IDF soldier that refused to fight? Because all Israelis are IDF soldiers.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

The children that are not yet IDF

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

There was an article posted recently about tens of thousands of Israelis marching in Tel Aviv, demanding Bibi resign and an immediate ceasefire.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

For the hostages. I mean it's not like I don't want the hostages to return but most of them are definitely not there for the genocide. See: How 88% of Israeli Jews support the war, and 94% think Israel is using too little or just enough fire power.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would love to see sources. I'm American so sources are limited either through our regular choices or my ignorance of outside sources, not to mention the credibility thereof. I'll take a look at any you care to provide.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So I slightly misremembered the 88% question; it's whether the answerer thinks the number of Gazans killed is justified by the war. General support for the war doesn't show up, but it is high (75% backed a Rafah operation back in March).

Anyway there: https://archive.md/PWZ1h

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 2 points 5 months ago

Thank you. Sad upvote.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they want a new government. it's not about the genocide. they generally support the genocide.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well idk really, since the only "not USA approved" news I ever get is here, so I can't really make an informed argument either for or against what you're saying. I just don't know how credible any news source may be, regardless whether slant is immediately obvious or not.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There.

It's NYT (yeah not the best source hence the weird slant) reporting on a poll by Tel Aviv university.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social 3 points 5 months ago

Oh gees, I remember reading this now. My fault, thank you for bringing it back to memory. That's... not encouraging at all, is it?

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago

Ask any Israeli you see and they'll probably tell you...