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This is half the fucking interweb, right now. JESUS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE THEM YOUR REAL EMAIL ADDRESS. Fucking calm down.
(lemmynsfw.com)
Yes, I realize how much hate I will get for this. I don't give a shit. Seethe away, kids.
It's perfectly reasonable for PC gamers who use the Steam platform, which provides copy protection, to be annoyed by having to sign onto services they otherwise would never use. There is no purpose to it aside from marketing and data collection.
Common in some games when they add cross platform play.
A lot of shitty policies are common. It doesn't make them less shitty.
Once.
You only have to sign in ONE SINGLE TIME, to link that one game to your PSN account.
And then you never, ever, ever, EVER have to do anything with that account again, until the sun burns out.
But people will cry their entitled fucking eyeballs out, regardless. Whatever. Like I said, seethe away. It just makes me erect.
EDIT: Also, what data collection? If you're fucking stupid enough to give Sony an email address that you actually use, you truly, actually deserve to be tracked. Scientists track dumb animals all the time. Nothing wrong with that.
EDIT: Also, it WOULD be fine for people to "be annoyed." But that's not what's happening, is it? These people are throwing a five-alarm, heart-attack-inducing, cringe-o-riffic, shit-smearing tantrum about it.
It's against the TOS to use false information to make a PSN account. So now you're banned and can't play the game on steam.
Sony has an atrocious record of being hacked as well.
Some of the countries the game was sold in don't allow PSN accounts to be created. So those users can't play the game on steam.
Ohhhh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Unsavory bad-actor types might get access to my THROWAWAY PROTONMAIL ACCOUNT???
OH. MY. FUCKING. GOD.
And I have to use a VPN to watch porn in Texas. Go find a fucking Kleenex for either your tears or my VPN-powered fucking jizz load. Or don't buy a box of Kleenex this month, and you'll save enough money to afford a premium VPN subscription.
Very chill, dude.
Yeah, whatever. I'm still not wrong.
Like I said to someone else, in this thread: if you give Sony your real email address that you use for your real personal shit and your real business shit, you deserve for your info to be tracked. Scientists track dumb animals all the time and there's nothing wrong with that.
Sony isn't asking for your fucking SSN and your birth certificate. They're asking for ANY RANDOM EMAIL ADDRESS THAT YOU HAVE ACCESS TO, SO YOU CAN CLICK AN ACTIVATION LINK.
I'm not even sure they want you to do that. They might not even ask for activation. I haven't done it, so I don't know.
I only haven't done it because I don't play Helldivers 2. Not because I have some kind of principled objection to making a free web account.
I mean, do you realize how many free web accounts we've all made in our lives? Between the years 1997 and 2012, I probably made LITERALLY TENS OF THOUSANDS OF FREE WEB ACCOUNTS. Now you guys are gonna draw a line in the sand for me, and say "hey, now...don't make any more of those, or you're a corporate shill."
Fine. Whatever. I guess I'm a shill. I'm not going to stop making free accounts for internet shit. That behavior is literally part of my culture.
EDIT: I think I'm going to go ahead and make myself a PSN account, right now. Even though I don't play any Sony games that require one. I'm just doing it to make you guys seethe some more.
I'm not really a gamer, so I'm really not fully sure what you are getting at. I just hope you experienced some kind of catharsis with this comment that will help you continue to live your best life as a Chill Dude. Heh, 69.
The tldr version = people are blowing a gasket, because a game published by Sony is requiring people to create a free account for their online gaming service, even if they bought the game through Steam (the Steam platform has nothing to do with Sony).
I hold the opinion that it's not any kind of a big fucking deal to spend 120 seconds giving Sony an email address that you only use for making free web accounts.
Other people are choosing to absolutely lose their fucking minds, talkin' about boycotting and whatever. And calling me a corporate shill.
They're mostly kids, I assume.
Yes, I would advise to simply disregard these individuals and/or focus on spreading the gospel of how best to make throwaway email accounts. Don't blow your own gasket! We need more Chill Dudes, not less.
Absolutely good advice. In fact, I'd just replied to another person, basically outlining how a consistent plan to only give out throwaway email addresses could change everything, by making those vast collections of email addresses worthless, on the corporate data-trading market.
This doesn't apply worldwide, but to put some stuff in perspective privacy-wise: in the UK you need to go through age verification to create an adult PSN account, kinda hard to stay anonymous, and I'm not sure how much data Sony retains.
https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/support/account/create-account-for-psn/
Like I said to someone else, if the citizens of the UK chose to vote for shitty politicians, they should blame themselves for voting stupidly and their politicians for enacting stupid policy.
Nobody should blame Sony for obeying the law.
But that's what people are doing. Because people are fucking stupid.
They can blame Sony for forcing them towards their systems, especially if the person in question didn't vote for the government who enacted those rules.
I will simply repeat myself. Concentrate really hard and try to read all the words, this time:
SONY DID NOT MAKE THOSE LAWS. SONY IS ONLY OBEYING THOSE LAWS. DON'T BLAME JAPANESE PEOPLE FOR BRITISH LAWS.
Are you okay? What the fuck would make you think that Japanese people control British laws? They were on the LOSING side of World War 2, remember?
Noticed you glossed the TOS bit. Idk if you know this but they'll ban you for using a VPN to create an account. So all those regionally locked people that bought it just should not have? A megacorp like Sony who installs fucking rootkits on CDs is a weird company to lick the balls of but go off.
I assume that means they'll ban people who play on PS5 through a VPN. That's not ideal, but that doesn't apply in this situation. In this case, you just have to make a PSN account, then connect it to your copy of Helldivers 2 ONE SINGLE TIME.
If I'm wrong, then that does suck. I'll admit that.
As for the TOS, who fucking gives a shit? "Ohhh nooooooo, they LIED TO US! A corporation LIED to us!"
Yeah, no shit. All companies are going to lie to you. All people who do business with you are going to lie to you. All random people you meet a few times are going to lie to you. All your friends are going to lie to you. All your family is going to lie to you. Everyone you ever love or fuck is going to lie to you. LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PERSON YOU WILL EVER MEET IS GOING TO LIE TO YOU.
Get that through your head. Or, to put it more bluntly, grow the fuck up.
Knowing that everybody lies, it's TRULY a matter of choosing which lies you're really going to get your nads in a twist about.
Setting aside the people who might have region-based problems, literally every other person can just GIVE SONY A THROWAWAY EMAIL ADDRESS.
Getting Sony to store everyone's worthless email addresses is, if anything, an expense for them. There is no downside, for us.
TAKE THE FUCKING WIN.
You don't know what a Terms of Service is? You'd be breaking it in that case, resulting in a ban. They didn't lie. Its just a shit ass thing to do. Its not a win for anyone. Expect more of this, make 599 million accounts. Enjoy it.
Here's what this comes down to.
I will freely admit that it really does suck for Sony to require people in countries that can't make a PSN account to...just fuck off, I guess?
But I know you WON'T admit that it's fine for everyone ELSE to just make a throwaway account.
For some reason, you consider 120 seconds of typing an email address into a text box and clicking an activation link to be some kind of ridiculous bar to clear. I just don't get it. Give them a throwaway email and get on with your fucking life, goddamn.
Idk how old you are, but that's not why I have a steam account, to make more accounts. Its not. If we're going to do this shit we might as well go back to the wild west of a launcher per game. I'm not making a fake PSN account and getting banned from a game I spent money on and have been playing just fine. That's bullshit.
There's no launcher involved. You make a PSN account ONE TIME, then you LINK THAT ACCOUNT to your fucking game.
No launchers. No extra services. No nothing.
Stop complaining about make-believe shit that only exists inside your own head.
if its such a tiny simple meaningless thing, why even need it in the first place?
check m8 shill
This is the world we're making for ourselves. No middle ground between heroic rebel and evil corporate shill.
Whatever. Keep seething. It just keeps making me more erect.
EDIT: I'm just saying, this is how people get radicalized. But NOT the way you're thinking. Not in the socially positive way that you're thinking of.
Be mad all you want. I actually don't care. I'm seriously warning you about this shit where you're altering your worldview to see "your side" as the heroic good guys, with no faults, and anyone who even SLIGHTLY disagrees with you as one of the evil, evil bad guys.
It's not even about the impassioned nature of your views. It's about ALTERING YOUR PERCEPTION IN A WAY THAT BLINDS YOU FROM REALITY.
Here's what it is: I actually don't care about this issue AT ALL. I don't even fucking play Helldivers 2, yet.
I might, at some point. But I dunno. I'm certainly in the key demographic for it. I even played Helldivers 1, which puts me in VERY rare company, compared to all these bandwagon-jumpers, who are now jumping OFF the bandwagon.
But I digress. The point is, I actually don't really give a shit about the whole PSN thing. I don't support it. I'm not mad about it.
Now, you DEFINE ME as being a corporate shill, on that basis. And that would be fine, in an academic sense. It would be fine, as long as you remembered "I'm the one defining that guy's beliefs for him, because I feel that anyone who isn't fighting against the corporate bullshit is actually supporting it."
But that's not how human minds work, in the information-addicted, hyper-connected, echo-chamber-ified social media age.
That environment is hacking your brain. If you're not careful, you're going to wake up one day, having completely forgotten that I'm not really a corporate shill. You'll forget that you defined those terms, and you'll TRULY BELIEVE that I am an actual servant of the Sony Illuminati.
I'm just saying. That's how we've gotten these Q motherfuckers, these flat-earth motherfuckers, these people who worship indicted political candidates. All that shit. Disagree with me all you want, insult me and my stupid face all you want. But don't call me a shill so much that you actually start to believe it.
For your sake, more than mine. But for all our sakes, because we don't need more brainwashed people out here.
tldr
TL;DR: "Reeeeeeee!"
Ouch
Lots of people with a sub-3rd-grade reading level, running around on the Web. It's getting terrifying. Way more so than Sony asking for your email address.
But which of those two things is everyone shitting their pants about?
So many people have reading problems, these days. It's genuinely sad.