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[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think there are multiple priorities.

First of all they want the genocide to stop, that one should be obvious.

Secondly they need israel to stop the "slow" genocide, meaning stop taking peoples homes and doing the whole settler thing.

And then third there are probably some people that are capable of realising that the israeli goverment will never be satisfied, unless every palestinian has been driven from their home or killed.

These people come to the conclusion that israel needs to be stripped of any outside support because their repeatedly officially expressed national goal is genocide. They would argue that if you let yourself down to the level of hamas, then you should be treated the same way or at least not supported by western countries.

[–] testfactor@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I agree with everything you said being the goal of the protests, but that wasn't my question.

My question was, "is this particular protest sign arguing for the abolition of the state of Israel?"

The sign seems to be advocating for things beyond what are listed in your post, which is why I asked the question.

Maybe I'm reading into the verbiage too much, but I have trouble coming up with an interpretation of "liberate Palestine" that is both a coherent and doesn't involve the dissolution of the state of Israel.

Maybe it's just going for vibes, and there wasn't much thought behind the choice of words, but it's the actual choice of words that threw me off.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I see what you mean. I think this protester would probably be already somewhat satisfied if at least a good chunk of the region were to get recognized as "palestine" and liberated from israeli occupation.

But yeah long term it would probably be best to slowly give colonized lands back to the people that lived there like we partially did with african colonies.