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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 0 points 11 months ago

Democracy is always superior to authoritarianism, long term. Regulated capitalism is always superior to state owned and directed business.

[-] lmaozedong@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Democracies" have delivered a constant train of 'once in a lifetime' recessions that China's regulated capitalism has somehow managed to avoid.

[-] TableteKarcioji@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

On the other hand you have Great Chinese Famine, Tiananmen Square massacre and more recently Uyghurs concentration camps and most likely genocide and that's only China.

[-] CascadeOfLight@hexbear.net 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You mean the Last Chinese Famine? The famine that took place in a country with a multimillennial history of devastating rice famines? The famine that was less bad than other, contemporaneous famines in capitalist countries? The famine that marked the last instance of food insecurity for about half a billion people?

What might have caused that?

Guess we'll never know.

The 'Tiananmen Square massacre' is a psyop and not a single government claims it's what actually happened.

And haven't you got the last update? We're not doing Uyghurs any more, just ask your state-controlled media:

The deradicalisation program was a success and has now finished, and all these guys:

Are now plumbers or electricians (or doing lucrative speaking tours through US """"intelligence"""" circles)

Shame about all those horrible crimes that were comitted by the Chinese government though:

[-] brain_in_a_box@hexbear.net 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Good thing there have never been famines, political violence, or persecution of minorities in "democratic" countries...

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

The whole thing is bullshit. The famine was sixty years and like four major government upheavals ago. Tianmenen square is the most overhyped government repression in history, and it's never mentioned that many of the casualties were unarmed PLA soldiers burned alive, and the insurgents that attacked them when armed PLA units were able to respond. And of course while there were human rights violations in Xinjiang, they are absolutely not the human rights violations people think they were, and the whole thing was part of a campaign to suppress insurgent groups and needs to be compared to the West's "bomb weddings and ambulances" strategy, to say nothing of the genocidal campaign in Yemen that recently concluded. It's all ignorance, totally unselfconscious indoctrination, and general bs.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago

Yes, I too subscribe to popular fiction.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Death_toll - I would like to point out that as much as they try to obfuscate it even the wiki admits that ~300 is the only credible number, and most of that was street fighting when insurgents attacked PLA troops with molotovs and firearms, with the death toll including unarmed PLA troops burned alive in their trucks

I know literacy is a lot to ask of anyone these days but you can in fact just read the UN report here - https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/ohchr-assessment-human-rights-concerns-xinjiang-uyghur-autonomous-region

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