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[–] Tja@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If there are 20k deaths vs 40k, my family is literally twice as safe on the road, why wouldn't I take that deal?

[–] exanime@lemmy.today -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Read the proposition... It's a thought experiment what we were discussing

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The proposition is stupid. If you told me that ALL future accidents will be prevented if I agree to kill my family, I would still not do it, that's just a bad faith trolley problem. Let's alone just recuding it by half.

I reduced it to a more realistic experiment, where my family migth be killed, with the same probability as any other.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The proposition is stupid.

Oh the depth of reasoning in social media

If you told me that ALL future accidents will be prevented if I agree to kill my family, I would still not do it

That is exactly the point... Anyone would be 100% happy taking any proposition as long as they don't have to pay the cost. I was just trying to highlight that

In this case, it was all about liability... We have not even come close to prove the current driverless tech is actually better than people's skills.... We all know that automated driving should be safer but we have no clue if we are even taking the right steps.to get there

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But I am paying the cost. I accept that my family might be killed in an accident, with the same probability as anyone else.

If that's your point, that a stupid point, and you should do better.

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Again if you are not willing to engage in a discussion where there is more nuance than black vs one, move along

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Blacknor white, as in "kill your family without consideration of probability (aka grey zones)"?

[–] exanime@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm tired of explaining what a thought experiment is and the point I was trying to discuss... You can just disagree and move on with our lives

Have a great week ahead bud

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Are you 14 and just learned what it is yourself? Everybody knows what a thought experiment is, and what the trolley one is in particular, which you just made a stupid version of.

Would you rather solve word hunger or get kicked in the crotch?