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Surveillance is bad, but in other parts of the world people die in wars and get killed with families for their ethnicity and\or religion, with punishing the perpetrators not even being attempted.
I'd say these tendencies in the (power-wise) center of the world are the reason for more violence on the rim, though.
So in my opinion this is generally one and the same battle.
This abstraction sucks. Every abstraction justifying shitty behavior should be scrutinized out of existence.
Such an idiotic comment really.
I'm saying this whole phenomenon hits you and your part of the world less than any other.
I said that in a more subtle way, because I never expect people who fail at reading to blame that on me.
In a very confusing way you are saying surveillance is justified because in other parts of the world people are not protected by their country's justice system. So it's better to be overly surveiled than nothing at all.
Which I fundamentally disagree with and am equally upset about either circumstance.
Especially when the people doing the surveillance operate outside the confinement of the justice system. See BLM.
Ah. No, I'm against any surveillance. At the same time I'm for all the transparency of government one can have.
It's basically about how hierarchical the society is.
A lot of clueless people want power structures to have their secrets, while citizens can be surveilled, cause it's to some good end (/s).
The more hierarchical it is, the more corruption and abuse of power there are, and make no mistake - people making it more hierarchical aim for that only and not for some noble goal.
I'm just saying that this same tendency which inconveniences people in the West with surveillance and legally dubious harassment, simply kills people elsewhere in droves.
Again, the people who are doing the surveillance have the means to kill people extrajudiciously. This just allows them to bring the surveillance they are already doing into the court room.
WDYM "again"? What are you arguing against?