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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/19442327

It's a known bug from upstream mutter. A fix is being worked on and there's a PPA with the updated packages by the Ubuntu developer working on the fix. It resolved the problem on my end.

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Could I just ask what your point is here? I’m refuting the baseless assertion that Gnome is an extremely buggy DE.

C'mon I never said it was buggy, I just said it was slow. Every other DE typically launches applications faster than GNOME. It also forces pointless animations down people's throat, and no that toggle under settings doesn't remove all animations.

If you don’t like the workflow then fair enough,

It's not about the workflow, GNOME has the potential to be the one and only DE that actually makes it so big companies start developing proprietary applications for Linux without the constant fear of the "floor shifting bellow their feet" making it pointless to develop for Linux. Unfortunately GNOME insists on reinventing the wheel about every two years in the quest for their vision... and we get a perpetually half made DE out of that. The desktop is more than tested and everyone already tried all possible iterations of it, just get over it and so something useful with your funding.

What's the point is in having a well funded team when you want to change network settings and you've to go through three different kinds of UIs and applications all of them with their own particular style? Not even Windows is that bad - at least the old-style Control Panel has all the settings (including very advanced ones) that Linux never managed to get into a SINGLE and CONSISTENT UI. The same applies for a lot of other cases.

GNOME design is mostly okay (from a UI standpoint) but very bad from an UX one. It hides things from you (including the decision of removing desktop icons that could've been simply a toggle like in macOS) and proceeds to work against you by blocking your workflow/actions with graphic animations instead of getting to the results.

To be fair there are other things in GNOME that are just pure crap and application icons are one of them. What Android and iOS (mostly this one) do is have a set of guidelines for application icons so things looks more or less uniform. Android allows for more deviation while iOS doesn't really care it will apply a mask over your icon either way. In GOME, in multiple menus, you get icons larger than others, backgrounds on some and others barely visible. GNOME never tires to get anything uniform and leaves that to themes that will also always fail because they won't have icons for all applications in the world.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

C'mon I never said it was buggy

That's what this comment chain is about, though, which is why I was asking what relevance your opinion that the workflow is bad has.

Unfortunately GNOME insists on reinventing the wheel about every two years

Again with getting further off-topic! What does this have to do with the assertion that Gnome is buggy?

Not that it's even true anyway, it's a total lie. There has been no "reinventing the wheel" since Gnome 3 came out something like 13 years ago — that's quite a while! But feel free to tell me how Gnome has "reinvented the wheel" recently. I'm all ears.

What's the point is in having a well funded team when you want to change network settings and you've to go through three different kinds of UIs

Again, how is this on topic? Did you reply to my initial comment by mistake?

Again, it's not even true. There's one UI in the settings (and across the whole system), I don't know why you're making stuff up?

The rest of your rant seems to be Gnome is inconsistent which is... wow. Gnome is easily the most consistent UX in Linux. Period. Including ChromeOS and Android.

But again, what does that have to do with the assertion that it's buggy?

Bluntly it seems to me like you have a bit of a chip on your shoulder. Maybe some Gnome devs spitroasted your girlfriend, maybe there's just some insecurity and the need to shit on something other people like in order to justify your own choices.

I don't care tbh, I just don't see the relevance of your rants to my comment or even the comment I replied to.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gnome is amazing for me. I don't want a busy desktop I want simple and elegant.

You don't have to like it. There are plenty of other options. Also saying it somehow promotes proprietary software is just downright wrong. You know what promotes proprietary software? People installing proprietary software.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

People installing proprietary software.

You are aware that you never got Adobe / MS Office / Autodesk for Linux because Linux is very bad when it comes to supporting developers aren't you? Unlike all other platforms out there you've to deal with multiple DE that are ever changing and half baked. You also have to deal with the lack of proper documentation into APIs and frameworks to make developer's lives easier.